quantumeffect

bapu
 
Also, tell him to show you the bass stance and the bass face.
 

By any chance  do you offer "bass face" private lessons?  Either in person or online?
 
I have not been able to find any "bass face" instructors here in the MN area for him.

Note that a "bass face" is going to be different than the "O" face a guitarist may show.  This is due to the fact that the bass player will never have an "O" to learn the face and must make due with other contortions probably caused by rarely washed undershreddies.

 






Given all the pictures of bass players and their "bass faces", I was wondering: has any college or university been forward-thinking enough to offer a double major Bachelors of Music (concentration in Bass Performance) and Gurning?
 
 

That's it! I Am giving up guitar till I achieve bass face!

DONE !

bayoubill
That's it! I Am giving up guitar till I achieve bass face!

bayoubill
DONE !

See. So easy any juan khan duet.

Moshkito

outland144k
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I would say this picture is slightly off kilter ... that singer not being very good, will end up having nothing and that bass player not being a stooge for the drums and the guitar player, will probably get more girls than all the others together.
 
You should show that to Bootsie ... he'll tell you the real story!

I truly wish I could agree with you. Alas, I cannot. With the culture being as incredibly narcissistic as it is, I am totally sure that very few girls in any club can hear anything but vocals. The quality of said vocals is simply irrelevant.

 
The only reason that the guitarist (and drummer) have any girls at all is because they occasionally sing back-up.
 

I think if any child wants to play music it is our job to encourage.  Whether they do it for enjoyment or a career is not important.  I grew up with young man called Frank Gambale and as a teenager he used to say one day he is going to play with Chick Corea.  Yes we used to say OK right.. Frank  but look where he ended up.  If you visualise the experience enough it will happen.
 
My own son Jacob wanted to be a drummer like me and we encouraged it.  He ended up going to a really great school here in Australia and ended up playing with the top tier of Australian Jazz musicians by the time he was in his early 20's.  Yes it has been hard for him too, getting work and surviving but now he is playing on a cruise ship with a great band and earning great money.  He plans to move to New York next year.
 
So it may work that way for them or not but the main thing is they are playing music for enjoyment.
 
Like I said if he wants to play bass get him a bass and let him go for it.  It does not have to be a huge expense either.  Yamaha make nice bases that don't cost the earth.  They are handy to have around even if they don’t follow up on it.
 
The greatest gift Dave has given to his son is simply being a musician.  I have been a successful musician for the last 36 years surviving as a full time player and composer.  If you want it bad enough and can visualise how you want it to be hard enough it will happen.
 

Moshkito
 
I would sit down, and have a solid talk ... and explain that to learn an instrument, any of them, takes forever, but if he listens to radio, tv, or his iPod, ask him how many horns can he remember and mention in songs, for example ... and he might end up thinking that dad is on his side, but would not want to see him struggle and get nothing for it. The chances of us seeing another Miles, or Dizzy, are next to nil, because the music industry, specially in America, is about money, and those were known, and are known, to not make that much money, which means, you are not going to find gigs a whole lot, and maybe showing up at the local bar and hope that you can jam with jazz folks and make it work? ... good luck, since they are also fighting for their own spot, and giving it away to you, is not an option ... they are the band selected.
 

Amen, Mosh. And to that end, the industry long ago stopped selling music and began selling image. America (the world, really) is not about listening, it is about seeing. If the image is supported by any other sensory stimulus, so much the better, but really, for the industry, those experiences are just corrorborative.
 
You mention Miles and Dizzy, and interestingly, those men both played fine piano (not just trumpet). In fact, Miles would play keys occasionally live. I believe Dizzy was actually recorded once backing up Bird on piano. And they are not isolated cases: Mingus had an album of himself on solo piano, Mike Brecker would often sit in live on drums, and Dave Liebman sounds like Elvin on drums. In fact, at a lesson I had with Dave back in the eighties, some of the first things he asked me as a saxophonist to do were to play piano (he liked the way I played), then play bass (I was not comfortable on fretted electric basses, I'd played fretless and acoustic for a while, so he gave me a pass on playing his fretted), and play drums (my weakest link; after hearing him play, there was no way I was going to attempt THAT in front of him). Dave was of the philosophy that all melody instrument players needed to learn how to play the rhythm section instruments to understand their roles in the band (guitar was also included, although he did not ask me about that).
 
There are far worse things than learning two (or more) instruments at the same time, particularly if they are from different musical families and/or functions in a band. Jazz musicians and composers particularly benefit from this approach to music education.
 

quantumeffect

outland144k
 
 Well, the nice thing is that you could be in for some nice father/son bonding if you play together in the same musical situation, helping to create beautiful, well-crafted renditions of tunes in which you both have an interest.
 

He we can be seen playing together.  OK, so we are not going to win any "Down Beat Magazine" awards but I definitely have a cool trumpet face.
 
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a6rA_07qCxU&feature=youtu.be
 
 
 
 
(here is my excuse - I gave the horn up as a kid and Am now an adult student at about the same playing level as my kids)

That's really cute; thanks for sharing. It looks like everyone had great fun.
 
BTW, where exactly is that? It looks familiar....

Randy P
 
My advice. Get the kid a bass and amp. Keep the guitar, he may go back to it, or he may start learning both. Playing with both my kids are great memories, even when they were beginners.
 

I loaned him a Yamaha bass (with active electronics … I took the battery out) that I bought off of a bass player friend of mine many years ago so he can get started.  I do have an Ampeg cabinet with a 15” driver in it but I do not have a head for it.  If he sticks with it for a while I will look for something so he can start shaking the walls of the house.