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  • Deleting whole measures from a song (SOLVED!) (p.2)
2013/03/01 11:30:46
Beepster
BUT there is a reason you should walk through ever one of those tuts one step at a time. You will be able to move around the main elements of the program a lot easier so you can move onto more in depth topics. Trust me... you will only hold yourself back if you have to come here asking about basic functions.
2013/03/01 11:34:13
Beepster
Yeah... the PDF is way easier to look through although using Ctrl + F can be a little useless. Best bet is to look in the index under the term you are looking for and then use the Acrobat page finder to jump to those pages. This however depends on actually knowing the correct terms to get started with which is another good reason to go through the tuts. Lots of names for things that aren't immediately apparent so if you don't know the proper terminology you won't be able to find the info.
2013/03/01 11:54:08
percepto
Again, thanks for the info, but of course I already read this section (6) completely before posting. It describes how to edit an individual clip, but there is nothing to explain about deleting a range of events between 2 points, which is a fundamental part of song arrangement (for me anyway)
I also looked in the Arranging and editing section and it wasn't there either?
Where is the pdf to be found? Is it different than the online help within the program?
Cheers
2013/03/01 11:55:08
percepto
Sorry, I just saw your link to the pdf. Thanks
2013/03/01 12:10:38
Beepster
All those editing techniques apply to all tracks that are selected. That means if you select things the way I described earlier then do the stuff described in that chapter the changes will happen on all of the selected tracks. Select Tracks 1, 2 and 3 so their track numbers are blue and crop the ends, drag the clips, make a split, etc and the change will apply to all of them.

Just reading the tuts isn't as beneficial as actually performing the steps within the sample projects. Not trying to be a jerk here but you are going to get very frustrated very quickly if you don't scoop up these basic skills before trying to start putting projects together. Cheers.
2013/03/01 12:33:15
Beepster
Also you need to figure out the difference between the various selection options. Like...

Track in focus: This is when you have clicked on a track in the Track Pane or on it's strip in the Console and the track control area or track strip turns a lighter gray than the other tracks. The track number will NOT be blue and the clips within the track will NOT be selected (when clips are selected they will turn gray by default). You can only have one track in focus at a time.

Track Selected: This is when the track number is blue. All the clips within the track will be selected (they will turn gray by default). You can select multiple tracks for editing and other functions the way I described earlier. This is probably the most important selection type because it lets you make bulk changes easily.

Clip selected: This is when you click on an actual clip segment and it turns gray but the surrounding clips remain unselected. You can select multiple clips one at a time by holding down Ctrl (there are other ways to select multiple clips as well). When a clip in a track is selected the track number will turn blue just like if you selected the entire track but only the selected clip will respond to changes that fall under what can be done to selections.

Each of these ways of selecting audio and MIDI data do different things so really get used to these concepts.
2013/03/02 13:01:05
percepto
I don't think you are being a jerk at all, feel free to give me advice, it's appreciated.
Thanks for the explanations of selection etc, but of course I had already understood this, I didn't just open the program and expect it to teach me everything! (not defending myself, just letting you know that I already read through all the basic stuff before I even opened the program.
But, you're still missing my point. What I actually asked isn't even in the tutorial! As I said, it deals with a single clip, not multiple clips across tracks.
You told me how to do it, but I still can't find any reference to it in the help!
I've just searched the help files for how to edit multiple notes velocities, same problem, I can't find how to do it! I have a simple kick drum pattern and I've just edited each individual note's velocity one at a time in the event list view. There must be a better way, but I can't find it either in the pdf or even a Google search!
My song is already almost complete. I have over 30 tracks of music with effects, busses, panning, volume, send automation etc and I'm about to record the vocals. Apart from the vocals, and some special effects I want to add, the mix is pretty much complete. I couldn't really get that far just by trial and error, I have put the effort in (and realise of course that I still have a lot to learn!) My issue is that the info is not easy to access.
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