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2014/11/14 09:35:50
Beagle
if we didn't address you personally by name, I apologize, but we DO very much appreciate all of the comments!!!
 
we've been discussing this song extensively and it's mix because of some mixed reviews we got from another forum.  I'm not sure if they're legitimate reviews or people don't know what they're talking about or if they're right and we need to reconsider things.  regardless I'm glad we're getting such good reviews here.  you guys must know what you're talking about!!! 
2014/11/15 19:49:38
gtrpastor
Thanks to everyone who listened and for commenting. This was a fun song to do. Gave us a chance to rock out a bit. I'm glad people seem to be enjoying it as much as we enjoyed recording it.
- Sean
2014/11/16 15:34:21
michaelhanson
I have uploaded a new version of this song to Sound Cloud, based on the wonderful advise that I have received here, and from a couple of very trusted sets of ears.
 
I started by widening out the BGV's some.  That has really opened up the vocals for this song and was an excellent suggestion.  I have also spread you the drum tracks a little more by panning a few of the kit pieces.  It was noted by a trusted member here who PM'd me, that the kit was a little centered  in the mix.  Lastly, 2 people from another forum site wanted to hear the kick better.  So, I have given it just a slight boost.
 
Thanks again for listening and advising, that makes this place sooooooo valuable.
2014/11/25 20:44:09
CreatingNoise
Great stuff guys, very catchy and the mix came through great on my system.  Nice performances all around!
 
2014/11/30 15:59:12
michaelhanson
Hey, thanks for listening, Creating Noise. We appreciate the feedback.
2014/12/05 18:13:52
Beagle
Hey Tony!  thanks a lot for listening! 
2014/12/06 15:33:53
konradh
It's all excellent, but I especially like the lead guitar sound in the intro and the full, well-mixed harmonies.
 
To point #1, I have trouble getting a distorted guitar to sound clean.  That sounds like it doesn't make sense but most producers or engineers will know what I mean: fat, sweet distortion, without crackle and hiss.  Your lead sound is a great example of what I like but can't always get.
2014/12/07 06:51:59
thegaltieribrothers
Great playing guys, live and vibrant rocky feel - good job!
2014/12/08 09:06:00
Beagle
Thanks Konrad!  I'll let Mike and Sean talk about the guitar sounds, they did all the guitars.  and Mike mixed it; he did a great job on the guitars in the mix, IMO.
 
thanks galtieribros!  appreciate the listen and feedback!
2014/12/08 15:52:07
gtrpastor
konradh - thanks for the listen and the comments.

In terms of getting a good tone, I've experienced trial and error as well. A few pointers that I hope will be helpful to you:
1) Make sure that your levels are good. If the input level is too small, it seems that it will sound more noisy and hissy. If your input or output levels are too high you will get unpleasant distorting.
2) Use your noise gate. I've had good results with the noise gate in TH2 (which is what I used on this recording). I also use Amplitube sometimes. It also has a noise gate, but I haven't had as good results with it.
3) Consider your pickups. I like the results I get from humbuckers when using an overdriven sound. Single coils are better for a clean sound IMO (though this may be a matter of taste). Single coils, though, do seem to do quite well with an "edgy," lower to medium gain sound. TH2 also has a setting for the type of pickups you are using.

If you want more details about the settings, effects and amp models I used in TH2 for this, I'd be happy to share. Just PM me.

thegaltierbrothers - thanks for the good words! I appreciate your taking time to listen.

- Sean
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