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2014/11/20 10:45:54
PJH
Thanks guys. your comments are appreciated.
 
The whole idea when we filmed it was to just have a record of the actual recording in the studio - hence the single view of the drummer, etc. The filming was more of an afterthought as we were far more concerned about getting the perfect takes.
 
I'm really glad that I ended up with something useable though.
 
Cheers.
2014/11/21 19:35:26
thepogue
Epic is a good word...performances were killer...the video shots and synth were very good indeed. This is well beyond what I have ever done and all you guy should be damned proud of the project as a whole.
 
Now let me put on my production hat and add a bit of thought....
 
1) the into was to long for my liking in my minds eye an intro is suppose to set me up and get me excited for what's coming next....in this case the tune and video was MUCH better than I expected based on the first min or so. It would be like serving pizza-rolls for appetizers when your havin prime rib for the main course....so it just makes me ask...why? I like the concepts in the intro but here's what I would like to have seen tried.
2) As stated the video shot was very crisp and clear and a good mixture of angles but they got a bit stale going from, bass, guitar, keys, kit and back around the horn again...I think most folks really just want to get a feel of what/who is playing so 20 seconds of a note for note lead seems long. (I play guitar so I enjoyed it from that stand point) but generally speaking 5 to 10 seconds gets a non-musian where you want them...THEN I would have used the intro footage (or something similar) and weave that between live playing shots...fading in and out throughout more or less following the flow of the tune and enhancing big production parts.
 
I really think you've got all the hard parts done and now you just need some creative editing which would create a more surreal atmosphere and a bit less literal.
 
Let me sign off by saying this is better than anything I have done "as is" so I cannot give a shining example of what I mean, but if you ever want an outsider to do some Vegas editing and give you an alt production just email me at thepogue at yahoo and I'd be happy to slice and dice a bit and maybe give you a few ideas.
 
Fantastic job!
 
 
 
2014/11/23 10:02:30
PJH
thepogue
Epic is a good word...performances were killer...the video shots and synth were very good indeed. This is well beyond what I have ever done and all you guy should be damned proud of the project as a whole.
 
Now let me put on my production hat and add a bit of thought....
 
1) the into was to long for my liking in my minds eye an intro is suppose to set me up and get me excited for what's coming next....in this case the tune and video was MUCH better than I expected based on the first min or so. It would be like serving pizza-rolls for appetizers when your havin prime rib for the main course....so it just makes me ask...why? I like the concepts in the intro but here's what I would like to have seen tried.
2) As stated the video shot was very crisp and clear and a good mixture of angles but they got a bit stale going from, bass, guitar, keys, kit and back around the horn again...I think most folks really just want to get a feel of what/who is playing so 20 seconds of a note for note lead seems long. (I play guitar so I enjoyed it from that stand point) but generally speaking 5 to 10 seconds gets a non-musian where you want them...THEN I would have used the intro footage (or something similar) and weave that between live playing shots...fading in and out throughout more or less following the flow of the tune and enhancing big production parts.
 
I really think you've got all the hard parts done and now you just need some creative editing which would create a more surreal atmosphere and a bit less literal.
 
Let me sign off by saying this is better than anything I have done "as is" so I cannot give a shining example of what I mean, but if you ever want an outsider to do some Vegas editing and give you an alt production just email me at thepogue at yahoo and I'd be happy to slice and dice a bit and maybe give you a few ideas.
 
Fantastic job!
 
 
 




Thanks for the feedback and for taking the time to give your opinion. Much appreciated.
 
Yes, the into is long but that's how it was recorded and I'm ok with it.
 
I do however agree fully with the advice on inserting more footage like the intro footage. I was already looking into that but as always, finding public domain footage of the subject matter is extremely difficult.
 
The song also touches on global warming etc and I'd really like to include footage of this but I cannot find any that I'm able to use from a copyright point of view.
 
I will keep looking though and once I've found what I want I'll do another edit.
 
Thanks for the interest.
 
Cheers,
 
Peter.
2014/11/25 20:35:56
CreatingNoise
Nice!  This song has been a part of my Soundclick station for a few years now.  Love the tune and enjoyed the video as well.  A nice surprise to find this tonight.  Thanks!
 
2014/11/26 00:38:19
Jablowmi19
Churchill... One of the greatest "leaders" in all of world history.
 
That's pretty cool, a live drummer, a guy playing a real B3, Marshals, A Les Paul?  It's pretty cool... Actually? It's really cool!
 
Political statements about global warming deleted
2014/11/26 16:45:06
jude77
Wow!!  In a word, Excellent!!  I found the stock footage at the beginning of the video spellbinding, and the footage of the band playing was excellent as well.  The song and production are both first class.  Very compelling.
 
The only thing I would change would be to give the footage of the band a grittier look (maybe add some noise and film grain, or push the colors) to make it match the opening footage better.  But that's only a niggle and certainly not a criticism.
2014/11/27 00:54:12
thepogue
Here's some help w/the footage.....
 
great job!
 
http://search.creativecommons.org/
 
http://www.loc.gov/
 
 
2014/11/27 10:43:45
Voda La Void
Awesome.  I love long songs, and this is a really good one.  Strong riffs and musicianship, very tight.  Love the judicious use of ballad and hammer.  Vocalist has a great texture.  Oh, the video was alright too.
 
 
2014/11/27 14:48:29
PJH
Voda La Void
Awesome.  I love long songs, and this is a really good one.  Strong riffs and musicianship, very tight.  Love the judicious use of ballad and hammer.  Vocalist has a great texture.  Oh, the video was alright too.
 
 


Thanks so much for your comments, Voda and Jude. I appreciate you taking the time to watch and give feedback.
 
@thepogue - Thanks for your help with the video footage. I intend to spend some time this weekend searching for something that I can use. Really appreciate the help.
 
Cheers,
 
Peter.
2014/12/02 18:25:40
stevec
+1 to the above - well worth the time.   The performances are really good (you guys can play!) and the mix is spot-on.   Really good stuff.    The chorus will likely be going through my head for the day.   
 
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