Beepster

I just now remembered that the only way to get back to that Track/Bus strip view in the Inspector is to click the currently selected tab so it is no longer glowing blue. It's a very weird way of doing things and I think they should fix that. I've actually been through this process of learning how to get to just the raw strips in the Inspector multiple times now and I STILL forgot how to do it because of the way it's set up. I just think it's not very user friendly in that regard. There should be a separate tab just for the strips or a close button for the Clip/Track menus that obscure the strips. I didn't even learn how to do that from the manual or any of the other resources. I spent a couple of hours freaking out poking at everything I could until I brought the strips to the top. lol 

I find it easier to just use the new keyboard shortcuts to toggle the different Inspector sections...
* Clip Properties = Shift+I
* Track Properties = Ctrl+Shift+I
* ProChannel = Ctrl+I


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I'd like to see folders in the console view like in track view. I think it would be a big screen space saver for those with one monitor and would be very helpfull for projects with many tracks.

  In the Track Inspector the toggle to use it is (I) this will either load it or expand it. If you for example at the top are Clip, Track and Pro Channel. To get to clip properties click in clip and you will have a listing of clip properties. To see the full strip click on the clip tab. The tab work as a toggle.  Pro Channel when displayed can go to a the strip view by clicking on the Pro Channel tab again. 


If you think of the tabs as toggles it makes more sense. 

Below is from page 531 in the User Manual.

To lock the Track Inspector to a specific track or bus
Be default, the Track Inspector dynamically updates to show the current track. However, you can
choose to always show a specific track or bus regardless of which track is current.
1. Click the track or bus you want to show in the Track Inspector.
2. Click the Track Name control in the Track Inspector and select Lock the current track or bus
from the drop-down menu.
To unlock the track or bus, select Lock the current track or bus from the menu again.

 

This is an interesting topic.  I like the separated views, personally.  I leave the Track Inspector visible with the Console View maximized in the Multidock and often keep the CV bus pane fully collapsed.  I always have the output bus of the focused track immediately available in the Inspector.  This doesn't work for sends, though.  Due to this, I've always wanted to adjust the behavior so that if you click in a send module on a strip, it's the send output, rather than the track output, that is shown to the right in the Inspector.  This would facilitate a way to do the thing I need most often: get to the FX bin of the send bus.

I'll be sure to adopt Bub's workflow of having a secondary CV screenset that shows the bus pane.

Heh. Thanks guys but I can do all that pretty easily. What I'm saying is there is only one way to get at just the strips in the Inspector and that is by clicking whatever tab is currently selected. Like I said it's just not very apparent or user friendly. Cycling through the various Inspector views is easy peasy. Getting at the plain strips is not. 

I'll remember it eventually but I have a feeling I'm gonna trip on this one again a few more times before it is fully ingrained in my thinking noodle.

Cheers.

Beepster


Heh. Thanks guys but I can do all that pretty easily. What I'm saying is there is only one way to get at just the strips in the Inspector and that is by clicking whatever tab is currently selected. Like I said it's just not very apparent or user friendly. Cycling through the various Inspector views is easy peasy. Getting at the plain strips is not. 

I'll remember it eventually but I have a feeling I'm gonna trip on this one again a few more times before it is fully ingrained in my thinking noodle.

Cheers.

I think I understand Beep. I do think its so simple that its perhaps too simple. Once I figured this out by reading the forum BTW it was a no brainer . 
Bill I also like the separated views too. I'm not sure how buss folders would work or if they are needed but I don't think if they were implemented it would cause a problem.  

I think the most user friendly way would be to have a Strips or Channels or None tab so that view lives along with the rest of them. Sounds like a redundancy but seriously that bugger has messed me up consistently. I may however just be a derp... but I remember a lot of other rather intricate stuff... and really this gets right to the heart of what sharke is referring to more or less. Having the Track and Bus strips side by side. That said and to return to my original point is that instead of just having the PC pop out in the Console that same Track/Bus view should be a tabbed options as well.

Just a thought... well many... but... well I'm blathering. Back my vids. ;-)

I picked up a tidbit with Roger H's mention of the drag trick. Thanks for that. But as far as the original question goes, I really like the bus area separated and being able to drag it out for a complete or less complete view of them in the console view. I use it all the time and like it. Also I'm a huge fan of being able to hide and show tracks and busses as needed with Command H. I do that all the time to keep my attention on the part I'm working on and hiding away the stuff I don't need at the moment.

I'm thinking the option to remove the divider would work better for touchscreen users too, would it not? In that you could simply flick the screen briskly to the left to get to the buses. 

Another idea would be to have an optional "console navigator" like the project navigator in the track view. Of course this would go along with the fully color-customizable console strips that I'm envisioning for X4.....you'd see (for instance) your yellow drum buses in the navigator and just click on that area to quickly navigate there. Great for large projects with 100+ tracks. 

another thing ive been doing lately is some what odd but a great space saver.
in track view(this is typical multitrack recording for me)i like to have the inspector open,but i dont really need the double width(track and master) so i grab the inspectors side and resize it to only where the track is showing.(cutting its size in half)
This is nice because you still have control over a slider M/S and other track controls with out having to expand things in track view.