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2013/02/20 10:07:48
redbarchetta
I did NOT like assembly language in college.
2013/02/20 10:12:16
redbarchetta
@guitardude
Correct me if I'm wrong but isn't part of the alure of 64 bit vs 32 bit the ability to move more data more quickly.  Like for fetch operations and what not?

I'm a software developer myself but not a bit twiddler. As said, I didn't like my assembly classes.  Closest I'd ever want to go there again is "C"
2013/02/20 10:16:55
scook
Assembly is one of the weed out classes. Working the CS labs, I saw several change degree plans after failing assembly. IIRC, it was required for the degree plan to be ACM accredited.
2013/02/20 10:21:22
guitardood
redbarchetta


@guitardude
Correct me if I'm wrong but isn't part of the alure of 64 bit vs 32 bit the ability to move more data more quickly.  Like for fetch operations and what not?

I'm a software developer myself but not a bit twiddler. As said, I didn't like my assembly classes.  Closest I'd ever want to go there again is "C"

I'm sure that's part of it, though with all the caching being done on-die I think the real significant reason for 64-bit is the ability to access more in-memory data.  IMHO, in a streaming app such as Sonar, you could have a 256-bit CPU/OS/Compiler  and it will still stream at whatever speed the disks could provide data.  It's a bit different for the sampling soft-synths which utilize large memory buffers (BFD,Kontakt,Machfive, et al) to load as many samples in ram as possible, primarily to cut down on latency.


Best,


2013/02/20 10:25:10
guitardood
scook


Assembly is one of the weed out classes. Working the CS labs, I saw several change degree plans after failing assembly. IIRC, it was required for the degree plan to be ACM accredited.

I had a System 370 Assembler class with a Chinese instructor who, despite being a very nice person, had very thick accent.  It took a difficult computer language and made it almost impossible for some classmates.


Best,

2013/02/20 11:25:46
redbarchetta
scook


Assembly is one of the weed out classes. Working the CS labs, I saw several change degree plans after failing assembly. IIRC, it was required for the degree plan to be ACM accredited.

Oh, I didn't drop the course, I just didn't get my degree
Had to get out into the field and start working, I just never went back and got those classes past. When I attempted to, the college had sense stopped offering the course.
 
I've been in the industry for about 17 years now.  I've worked at Intel for about 12 of those.  You'd think I'd know more about bit twiddling considering where I work, but, I work FAR from the processors. All the development I do is more database / web driven
2013/02/20 11:27:46
redbarchetta
guitardood


redbarchetta


@guitardude
Correct me if I'm wrong but isn't part of the alure of 64 bit vs 32 bit the ability to move more data more quickly.  Like for fetch operations and what not?

I'm a software developer myself but not a bit twiddler. As said, I didn't like my assembly classes.  Closest I'd ever want to go there again is "C"

I'm sure that's part of it, though with all the caching being done on-die I think the real significant reason for 64-bit is the ability to access more in-memory data.  IMHO, in a streaming app such as Sonar, you could have a 256-bit CPU/OS/Compiler  and it will still stream at whatever speed the disks could provide data.  It's a bit different for the sampling soft-synths which utilize large memory buffers (BFD,Kontakt,Machfive, et al) to load as many samples in ram as possible, primarily to cut down on latency.


Best,
 
How much memory can Sonar utilize?  Also, have you ran sonar with a SSD? Wondering what kind of performance enhancements you'd get with one of those.

2013/02/20 11:29:31
SteveStrummerUK
Bub


Dear George Lucas,

Plus update all 80 of your Pro Tools desks at your 155,000 Sq./Ft., state of the art, Billion dollar world renowned recording facility that sits on 4000 acres, which is capable of accommodating a 130 piece orchestra and capturing their sound at a sample rate of 192kHz, while simultaneously linked to every other major recording studio on the planet in real time, to something a little more state of the art, say, Sonar X1 Producer 64 bit Edition?

It matters!

Sincerely,

Bub.

 
Now that's how to do sarcasm
 
 
2013/02/20 11:41:54
scook
Memory available to SONAR depends on the version of SONAR and OS. Many people use SSDs in one way or another with SONAR. I have my sample library on an SSD; my audio projects and programs are on separate regular HDs.
2013/02/20 11:42:49
sharke
Good God the sight of assembly language makes me aroused. Well maybe that's a bit of an exaggeration - it does make me semi-pleased though. 
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