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2013/02/20 20:13:20
bapu
/THREAD?
2013/02/20 20:15:28
Splat
I would argue too many assumptions have been made, I've seen two inaccuracies as well, however I've lost the will to live....
2013/02/20 20:29:18
guitardood
I know it's an old thread (below), but the second post by 'eratu' says, with great eloquence, the exact point I was trying to make.  I guess I have to call my attorney and cancel that patent filing....LOL.

Post: http://forum.cakewalk.com...mpage=1&print=true

Best,


2013/02/20 21:37:58
chuckebaby
i thought it also made applications run faster.
im not sure if this thread helps.
http://superuser.com/questions/9112/other-benefits-of-64-bit-os-apart-from-memory-expansion

2013/02/20 22:27:18
trimph1
John


Ah who writes in machine language? That separates the men from the boys. Me I took a look at assembly once and nearly had a stroke. 

I liked PC BASIC.  

PC Basic here as well...then again I had some exposure to COBOL...don't ask why...
2013/02/20 22:40:11
Bub
I taught myself how to program in TI Machine language because I couldn't afford to buy the 'Basic' add-on cartridge for it. I was 11 or 12?

It was actually pretty cool what you could do with graphics on that thing. I was fascinated with animation back then and would program these elaborate scenes with clouds drifting and birds flying. Cars driving down a road. Stupid things like that, that you do when you're a kid. Now days they call them animated GIF's and you can do it in 15 minutes with photoshop. Back then I programmed it pixel by pixel, line by line, hour by hour.

I wrote a program one time that turned the QWERTY keyboard on it in to a piano keyboard and I could play my TI-99-4a like a synth.

Then I picked up my brothers guitar one night and strummed it, and it's been all down hill ever since. Heh.
2013/02/20 22:51:12
Rain
I'm not using Sonar, but when I investigated whether I should run my DAW in 64 Bit mode, the answer was clear and simple:

What advantages are there to using 64-bit mode?  The main advantage is that you can address vast amounts of memory. With 64-bit mode, the application memory is not limited to 4GB as with 32-bit applications, so there is essentially no practical limit by today's standards. As a result, all the installed memory that is not needed by the OS is available for use by Logic Pro or MainStage and all the included plug-ins, which can be meaningful if your Mac has more than 4GB of memory installed. This larger amount of memory allows you to run far more instances of memory intensive plug-ins, such as sample-based software instruments.


This is all I needed to know, thank you Apple. :) Anyone feel free to argue w/ the coders and speculate. I'll be making music. ;) 
2013/02/20 22:52:03
guitardood
chuckebaby


i thought it also made applications run faster.
im not sure if this thread helps.
http://superuser.com/questions/9112/other-benefits-of-64-bit-os-apart-from-memory-expansion

Some decent info.  I think there is no doubt that 64-bit is where we want to be.  It's just a matter of which is the correct path to take to that Eden.   For me, having the option to continue to run 32-bit Sonar and have all my plugs stay native and use jBridge to allow my memory-heavy synths to run in 64-bit seems to the way to go.  But there is no doubt everyone who can be on 64-bit windows should be.

As for running Sonar, the point is to know what your requirements are and try and design both a reliable and cost effective solution to meet those requirements.  Other than Machfive, BFD2 & Kontakt, all of my other plugs and all of my projects don't require more than 2gb and run fine in 32-bit.  As for ProChannel, I prefer to use the Neve 88RS channel strip on my UAD-1 system.  So if I can stay in 32-bit Sonar and utilize jBridge to run my 64-bit plugs inside of 32-bit Sonar, for me, makes the most sense.
Best,



2013/02/20 23:03:04
guitardood
Bub


I taught myself how to program in TI Machine language because I couldn't afford to buy the 'Basic' add-on cartridge for it. I was 11 or 12?

It was actually pretty cool what you could do with graphics on that thing. I was fascinated with animation back then and would program these elaborate scenes with clouds drifting and birds flying. Cars driving down a road. Stupid things like that, that you do when you're a kid. Now days they call them animated GIF's and you can do it in 15 minutes with photoshop. Back then I programmed it pixel by pixel, line by line, hour by hour.

I wrote a program one time that turned the QWERTY keyboard on it in to a piano keyboard and I could play my TI-99-4a like a synth.

Then I picked up my brothers guitar one night and strummed it, and it's been all down hill ever since. Heh.

The 99-4a was the first computer I owned.  I learned quite a bit on that beast.  Powerful graphics, decent sound and a killer text-to-speech engine which I had fun programming the phonemes to form every curse word I could think of.  It was funny to hear the it say 'F**CK' with that authoritative TI voice.  I even actually wrote a 'Quarters' beer drinking game...LOL.


Best,


2013/02/20 23:43:53
Paul P
Bub :

"It was actually pretty cool what you could do with graphics on that thing. I was fascinated with animation back then and would program these elaborate scenes with clouds drifting and birds flying. Cars driving down a road. Stupid things like that, that you do when you're a kid. Now days they call them animated GIF's and you can do it in 15 minutes with photoshop. Back then I programmed it pixel by pixel, line by line, hour by hour. "

Since we're reminiscing... My first computer (Z80) had a hex keypad and a 6 digit led display, 4 for the address and 2 for the data. I programmed this game on it where you had to move a led segment forward across the 6 digits while a pattern of segments moved the other way so you had to dodge them. Assembly language on paper, enter the opcodes, then back up the program on a cassette tape at 300 baud.

I spent days and days on that computer. It was assembled it from a kit.
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