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2013/02/15 16:36:40
Freddie H
 "isnt primetime ......nothing that stops me from using this as my main daw,24/7 "

+1 right
I just like some small improvements fixed and addons.
2013/02/15 16:43:51
Freddie H
Keni


Beepster


Considering all the stuff that didn't get fixed and the new things they broke with the "a" patch they'd better be working on something. If we gotta wait for more than a couple more months I'll be looking at Cubase instead of upgrading to X3 next go around. I really don't want to do that but by that time I'm definitely gonna need something I can count on because I intend to be making some money off this stuff by then. If they get it up to X1d stability standards I can live with that. 


I'm in the same boat, but I already know that I can't depend on Cubase either... It has it's equivalent share of issues.

That's my current dilemma. I use to count on Sonar... even with bugs it made my work easier and more productive than any of the others... Hands down...

Now? It still has the same underlying engine, but the new trappings of the X generation have fouled so many things... and improved a few, but the ratio is far heavier on the down side (for me)...

But the competition is no better... Sonar used to be better, but it's now coming down to level with the others instead of above them (for me)... So at this point I simply continue to use it because I'm familiar with it... I will not be any happier or faster with the competition's products or I would already have switched!

I've always loved Cakewalk's products and their' very devoted team.... But I still work in awe of many current decisions....


So I'm trapped between a rock and a hard place.... and I stay with Sonar and belly-ache as my work fills me with frustration instead of joy.... It's amazing how something others might consider good or not important, etc. can affect others.... <sigh>

As with the name of my most recently completed song...

Feelin' So Sad

Yes I am!

Keni

IF Cakewalk just add support of VST3 convert PRO CHANNEL to VST3 format and flexible, resizable GUI console view like Cubase 7 they will be on top again. 
Lets face it, SONAR Pro channel modules are in world class quality.
I also want to be able to change ALL COLORS in SONAR not just some, like in the old days. 
A better "Preference" dialog without an hidden INI or AUDIO-files settings dialogs that you need to use Wordpad to edit ???
2013/02/15 17:02:37
Keni
BTW...

Even with my complaints and issues, I'm using X2a for all my projects...

There is no problem with it recording/playing/etc... The issues are only editing systems (for me) and determine how comfortable I am and how easy it is for me to do my work....

So maybe I should thank The Bakers as this means it takes more time for me to work, hence I need to charge the client for the time, right?

Sadly, but not.... I end up writing off more of my time as I feel it's "my fault" it took so long... Even tho (to me) it's Sonar's current state that's forcing the time issue for me...

How much time must I "waste" every time I need to edit a clip on a lane when it means zooming, re-sizing, adjusting what is on the screen (not part of the resizing itself) and then finally editing... It' really a pain to me, but I still get the work done (and still have time to search for a therapist to deal with my raised anger levels before I throw the PC out the window! ;-))

Keni

2013/02/16 09:43:17
Freddie H
What about CHANDLER LIMITED FET Germanium Compressor as a new PRO Channel Module in next update?
Who would love that?
http://chandlerlimited.com/germanium-compressor/

2013/02/16 10:29:21
Keni
Freddie H


What about CHANDLER LIMITED FET Germanium Compressor as a new PRO Channel Module in next update?
Who would love that?
http://chandlerlimited.com/germanium-compressor/




Hi Freddie...

Yeah... That would be a nice treat, but honestly? I'd much rather they gave us no new plugins but fixed the issues around Lanes/Layers (I won't rant)...

Keni

2013/02/17 16:39:45
Keysman
The Chandler would be cool and I would love to see a Distressor as well!!

Apparently, not all definitions of the expression "24/7" are the same around here. Dont get me wrong, I like the workflow improvements in X2 and the console emulations are fine ( although the Soft Tube does a much more precise job of it instead of the subtle cumulative effect of the console ) but...

 -the Pro Channel irregularities still exist ( loading a preset will occasionally disable one of the modules, ect )...a visually interesting GUI does not make a more stable work tool period.
-Lanes are a good idea but the current version is a jumbled mess in a full time tracking environment....and I mean 6 days a week clients that dont give a crap about your latest 'gee whiz' feature of your DAW that occasionally works.
-still getting occasional app crashes that the details tab/module shows as Sonar. Sometimes several a day.
-projects taking several minutes to open that X1 opened almost instantly.

With the exact same build, X1 would run completely stable for weeks and weeks of continuous, non stop use over 20-30 different projects. If your at home doing projects that mainly consist of the same type of architecture each time then your 'window' of stability will be more narrow. But you start throwing a variety of tracking a recording scenarios at X2 and the wheels come off pretty quickly. To say that X2 is anywhere near as stable as X1 is simply not accurate..the evidence just dosnt bare that out yet.

Hoping a X2b update will change that but for now, thats just not the case. At work, we have reverted back to our X1d build for now so we can get back to being dependable instead of pretty and neurotic.
2013/02/17 23:34:57
Guitarpima
[<font]Just as long as the guys who make the patches/updates are not the same guys in charge of the forum software then I'm happy.
2013/02/17 23:45:10
Bub
SteveStrummerUK 
Next update SONAR X2B...when?
 3.41pm GMT, March 17th 2013.
In The Year 2525?
2013/02/17 23:56:59
stoutlyric
Bub


SteveStrummerUK 
Next update SONAR X2B...when?
 3.41pm GMT, March 17th 2013.
In The Year 2525?

Nice one! One of my all time favs
2013/02/19 10:45:40
Freddie H
What???
Have Brandon Ryan left Cakewalk too? First Brandon and now Seth Pearlstein?????
 
 
Are cakewalk ship sinking? Is that's why we don't see any update????

http://forum.cakewalk.com/fb.ashx?m=2784072
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