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2013/02/19 16:55:07
Freddie H
As far of my long time experience and knowledge there are only few candidates that are in same league that could replace SONAR X2 x64.


1. Cubase Nuendo
2. Samplitude PRO X / Sequoia

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not there yet...
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3. Studio One (Not ready for real work)
4. Digital Performer 8 (windows)

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lower list....
5. Logic Pro -Its not as it use to be. a drag and outdated platform that limp behind every year.
6. Reaper (Not consider as a professional DAW)
 
7. LIVE -not a DAW its a rewire application
8. Reason - not a DAW its a rewire application
 
9 FL Studio - not what I call a DAW

10. Tape mashine

11.....

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15..
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20. Pro Tools HD - a DAW that has lived under a rock the last 15 years.... Only DAW that only works on Windows 95 and XP32. Only DAW on the market that are still in x32bit only 2013 and have no new technology functions and totally outdated.
The latest features were non destructible faders and record and working with 32 bit files? All other DAW has had that since the late 90ths.
today you can't find any functions that Pro Tools do better then other DAW. Actually it's the opposite. all other DAWs do it 10 times better.
2013/02/19 17:01:08
Bub
Freddie H

Pro Tools HD - a DAW that has lived under a rock the last 15 years.... Only DAW that only works on Windows 95 and XP32. Only DAW on the market that are still in x32bit only 2013 and have no new technology functions and totally outdated.
The latest features were non destructible faders and record and working with 32 bit files? All other DAW has had that since the late 90ths.
today you can't find any functions that Pro Tools do better then other DAW. Actually it's the opposite. all other DAWs do it 10 times better.
It just goes to show what kind of damage marketing hype can do. Referring to the whole 64-bit debacle.
2013/02/19 17:12:28
pbognar
Freddie H


As far of my long time experience and knowledge there are only few candidates that are in same league that could replace SONAR X2 x64.


1. Cubase Nuendo
2. Samplitude PRO X / Sequoia

...
not there yet...
...

 
3. Studio One (Not ready for real work)
4. Digital Performer 8 (windows)

...
lower list....
5. Logic Pro -Its not as it use to be. a drag and outdated platform that limp behind every year.
6. Reaper (Not consider as a professional DAW)
 
7. LIVE -not a DAW its a rewire application
8. Reason - not a DAW its a rewire application
 
9 FL Studio - not what I call a DAW

10. Tape mashine

11.....

....
....
....
15..
...

...
20. Pro Tools HD - a DAW that has lived under a rock the last 15 years.... Only DAW that only works on Windows 95 and XP32. Only DAW on the market that are still in x32bit only 2013 and have no new technology functions and totally outdated.
The latest features were non destructible faders and record and working with 32 bit files? All other DAW has had that since the late 90ths.
today you can't find any functions that Pro Tools do better then other DAW. Actually it's the opposite. all other DAWs do it 10 times better.

Freddie - do you have a working environment to do your job and/or make music?  It's not going away.  I know we are all freaking out to various degrees, but nothing has to be done in the next 2 weeks.
 
For all we know, Sonar may emerge from this better than ever.  The future of Sonar is the stuff of our speculation.
 
 
2013/02/19 17:14:00
Freddie H
Bub


Freddie H

Pro Tools HD - a DAW that has lived under a rock the last 15 years.... Only DAW that only works on Windows 95 and XP32. Only DAW on the market that are still in x32bit only 2013 and have no new technology functions and totally outdated.
The latest features were non destructible faders and record and working with 32 bit files? All other DAW has had that since the late 90ths.
today you can't find any functions that Pro Tools do better then other DAW. Actually it's the opposite. all other DAWs do it 10 times better.
It just goes to show what kind of damage marketing hype can do. Referring to the whole 64-bit debacle.

So 64bit is a "hype" to you?
....Bub...this is just getting worse.. 
  

2013/02/19 17:17:40
Freddie H
pbognar

 

Freddie - do you have a working environment to do your job and/or make music?  It's not going away.  I know we are all freaking out to various degrees, but nothing has to be done in the next 2 weeks.
 
For all we know, Sonar may emerge from this better than ever.  The future of Sonar is the stuff of our speculation.
 
 
Yes, true. Time will tell!
I'm not jumping ship yet. I'm really pleased with Sonar X2 platform even with its small bugs and need of small features like VST3.
2013/02/19 17:20:46
Susan G
Reaper? Please... allmost second from that list "black list"

Hi Freddie-


Which was the last version you tried? Some things do get better over time, and not to engage in "DAW Wars," but I don't think it deserves a bunny or any other facepalm at this point.


-Susan
2013/02/19 17:23:24
Freddie H
Susan G



Reaper? Please... allmost second from that list "black list"

Hi Freddie-


Which was the last version you tried? Some things do get better over time, and not to engage in "DAW Wars," but I don't think it deserves a bunny or any other facepalm at this point.


-Susan

Yes! I admit I haven't check it out myself for over two years but I do have check their FORUM and the webpage.
Many new functions has been added but still...I don't personal feel its there yet. The GUI is nasty aswell!
2013/02/19 17:24:05
redbarchetta
Bub 
It's $225 dollars for a Commercial Use license for Reaper. I wouldn't call that cheap. And it's certainly not a 'no-frills' solution. There's a lot of plug-in's that come with Reaper, it's rock solid, you can run it natively on Mac, and it just works. You can even run it from a Thumb Drive. There's a robust community of users, there's a whole community that does Themes. We have Panup who had to hack Sonar to do what he does. Thanks Panup btw.
Thanks, 

Bub

Actually, Reaper is what I just moved away from. Not because it was not stable or anything like that, rather I just find it to be bla.  Sure you can create themes for it, but that only goes so far. The entire GUI in my opinion needs to be overhauled.  There are definite things I liked about reaper.  It seems very snappy, it is a relatively clean un-cluttered app and most of all, i like how you can manipulate it through some of it's scripting abilities.  I dunno, it just didn't inspire me.  



2013/02/19 17:27:52
redbarchetta
Freddie H

Yes! I admit I haven't check it out myself for over two years but I do have check their FORUM and the webpage.
Many new functions has been added but still...I don't personal feel its there yet.

It's very close. It seems to have most all the functionality that most other daws have. But as I just stated, it really needs a face lift. There needs to be a better seamless feel between the main GUI and the dialog boxes that open up as well as the native plugins. 
I think if they addressed some of those issues, a lot more people would jump on board.  
2013/02/19 17:29:13
Freddie H
Studio One GUI is also not there yet. Grey grey 90ths more grey!
Its more then me that complain about Studio One GUI.

Now someone will say...GUI isn't it sound we working with? Yes but the GUI matters too working long hours 7 days a week. SONAR X2 as just sweet when it comes to GUI. One of the best GUI in the business!
 
After that Samplitude and DP.
Then perhaps Cubase and actually Pro Tools.

Pro tools GUI is the only thing they do good over there at AVID.
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