Just a thought, If the DR880 has a USB connection, Does your computer recognise it as a storage device?? Like, do you see it in My Computer? 

If so you might be able to just go in there and find the folders with the MIDI loops.. 

Most "automated" keyboards and drum machines do not output the internal sequenced patterns via MIDI, I'm surprised that worked. . 

redbarchetta

M_Glenn_M


From what little I researched so far, it seems to be mainly for labeling the existing instruments for ease of editing once you have the midi data in the PRV. 
But I'm not seeing an ability to create trax yet so not seeing the advantage.

I told EZ Drummer to create separate tracks when it opened up. I got all the tracks but the midi was only applied to the first ez drummer track that was created.

  I don't have EZ Drummer but it should have a mixer or some way to route the drums to their own audio outs.  Example in BFD2 you have a drum set loaded and all the drums as a default will output to the master out of BDF2. In the mixer view of BDF2 at the bottom of each drum it has an output widget not unlike in Sonar. There is where you can set each drum to its own audio track. I'll bet EZ Drummer has something very much like that. 

M_Glenn_M


I don't think mapping will help with that.
The samples on the 880 are it's own and are not transferable. 
If you want those sounds you will have to record them as audio.
The sounds (samples) you get from the various softsynths are replacing the 880 (samples) sounds.  
IOW the soft synths are simply using the midi data generated by the 880 pattern.
The good part is there are a lot of sample options in the softsynths and they are easy to change.

Ok, so I'm a bit confused. I don't necessarily want the drums to sound the same.  In fact, that's why purchased ez drummer, so I could have different "sounding" drums


What I'm trying to do is this:
When the 880 kick is played, the EZ Drummer kick is played.
When the 880 snare is played, the EZ Drummer snare is played
When the 880 tom is played, the EZ Drummer tom is played
When the 880 cymbal is crashed, the EZ Drummer cymbal is crashed


And in the proper sequence.  Is what I'm trying to say making sense? 


Even thought the midi is coming across, the EZ Drummer does not seem to be interpreting it correctly and throwing in different tom tom patterns and cymbal crashes. 

Cactus Music


Just a thought, If the DR880 has a USB connection, Does your computer recognise it as a storage device?? Like, do you see it in My Computer? 

Most "automated" keyboards and drum machines do not output the internal sequenced patterns via MIDI, I'm surprised that worked. .  

Nope, computer does not see it as a storage device. Not listed in explorer anyway.

That is why you need a Drum Map to map the MIDI the DR-880 is sending to the proper notes for EZDrummer. It might be easier to start with a pre-made map. There are several SONAR Drum Maps available in the public download area on the Toontrack site.

John

redbarchetta

M_Glenn_M


From what little I researched so far, it seems to be mainly for labeling the existing instruments for ease of editing once you have the midi data in the PRV. 
But I'm not seeing an ability to create trax yet so not seeing the advantage.

I told EZ Drummer to create separate tracks when it opened up. I got all the tracks but the midi was only applied to the first ez drummer track that was created.

I don't have EZ Drummer but it should have a mixer or some way to route the drums to their own audio outs.  Example in BFD2 you have a drum set loaded and all the drums as a default will output to the master out of BDF2. In the mixer view of BDF2 at the bottom of each drum it has an output widget not unlike in Sonar. There is where you can set each drum to its own audio track. I'll bet EZ Drummer has something very much like that. 

Maybe super package does but just got the basic Ez Drummer kit.  It does have a mixer but it does not look like you can route things.  The Super package has a LOT more features. Rather slick looking. I almost upgraded to that yesterday but I'm eyeballing a different audio interface right now.  Either the VS-100 or the Octa-Capture.

scook


That is why you need a Drum Map to map the MIDI the DR-880 is sending to the proper notes for EZDrummer. It might be easier to start with a pre-made map. There are several SONAR Drum Maps available in the public download area on the Toontrack site.

Ok, off on the hunt I go! I had a feeling that's what I was missing.... 

Really appreciate all your time guys!!!  Being new to this can be overwhelming.  I've never done anything with MIDI before.

redbarchetta

M_Glenn_M


I don't think mapping will help with that.
The samples on the 880 are it's own and are not transferable. 
If you want those sounds you will have to record them as audio.
The sounds (samples) you get from the various softsynths are replacing the 880 (samples) sounds.  
IOW the soft synths are simply using the midi data generated by the 880 pattern.
The good part is there are a lot of sample options in the softsynths and they are easy to change.

Ok, so I'm a bit confused. I don't necessarily want the drums to sound the same.  In fact, that's why purchased ez drummer, so I could have different "sounding" drums


What I'm trying to do is this:
When the 880 kick is played, the EZ Drummer kick is played.
When the 880 snare is played, the EZ Drummer snare is played
When the 880 tom is played, the EZ Drummer tom is played
When the 880 cymbal is crashed, the EZ Drummer cymbal is crashed


And in the proper sequence.  Is what I'm trying to say making sense? 


Even thought the midi is coming across, the EZ Drummer does not seem to be interpreting it correctly and throwing in different tom tom patterns and cymbal crashes. 

Scook is correct. You may need to load or create a drum map for EZ Drummer. There may be ones already made that you can download. Or it might create its own. BFD2 does. 

One big reason to use a drum map is when you want to edit the MIDI to match the drum set you are using. This is not a problem with GM MIDI going to a GM synth. It is needed when using a non GM drum synth. 

Most VSTis are not General MIDI.

EZDrummer can route each track in the EZDrummer mixer to a different audio output. The easiest way to do this is make sure to check the "All Synth Audio Outputs: Stereo" in the SONAR "Insert Soft Synth Options Dialog" when inserting EZDrummer. Then in the EZDrummer mixer right-click on one of the output assignments and select Multichannel.

Just one more tip, when you get this all figured out and setup the way you want it. Select all the EZDrummer tracks (audio and midi), the Drum Bus you send the EZDrummer audio tracks to and save it as a track template. That will let you setup EZDrummer in future projects by inserting the template rather than going through the config again.

redbarchetta

John

redbarchetta

M_Glenn_M


From what little I researched so far, it seems to be mainly for labeling the existing instruments for ease of editing once you have the midi data in the PRV. 
But I'm not seeing an ability to create trax yet so not seeing the advantage.

I told EZ Drummer to create separate tracks when it opened up. I got all the tracks but the midi was only applied to the first ez drummer track that was created.

I don't have EZ Drummer but it should have a mixer or some way to route the drums to their own audio outs.  Example in BFD2 you have a drum set loaded and all the drums as a default will output to the master out of BDF2. In the mixer view of BDF2 at the bottom of each drum it has an output widget not unlike in Sonar. There is where you can set each drum to its own audio track. I'll bet EZ Drummer has something very much like that. 

Maybe super package does but just got the basic Ez Drummer kit.  It does have a mixer but it does not look like you can route things.  The Super package has a LOT more features. Rather slick looking. I almost upgraded to that yesterday but I'm eyeballing a different audio interface right now.  Either the VS-100 or the Octa-Capture.

I was just looking at the picture of the EZ Drummer mixer and it can be routed as I said.  There are three rows at the bottom. At the very bottom is the name of the kit piece just above that is the output. Click on that to route that drum to where you want it.