I have a clip that's of length 7:720, so I extend it on the right hand size to make a square 8:000. 

But when I move the clip, the size reverts back to 7:720. Doesn't matter how many times I change it to 8:000, it reverts back to the original size every time I move it. 

Any ideas on this one? 

Have you tried setting the proper lenth in the Inspector under track properties?

chuckebaby


Have you tried setting the proper lenth in the Inspector under track properties?

Yep, both methods result in the reversion to the original size when I move the clip. 

If there is no notes in the blank area then the clip will shrink to the last note.

The blank area you keep seeing is more of a visual thing than a real thing.

Technically the last note is the end of the clip.

If you need a clip to extend beyond the last note you can put a silent note there or sometimes I use a 0'd controller there.

I'm sure that didn't used to happen for me, lol! I must be going mad. 

Anyway, grrr. I wish it didn't. When I'm arranging EDM I like to see clips as blocks of even length, it helps as a visual guide when you're lining stuff up, if like me you don't like Aim Assist. 

sharke


I'm sure that didn't used to happen for me, lol! I must be going mad.  

 

That is unfortunately the way MIDI clips have always behaved. It's quite annoying. There are SO many situations when
slip editing the length of a MIDI-clip to either direction would be useful.
 
If it's absolutely inevitable to have data at the end of a MIDI clip, it would be at least nice to have some kind of a macro for it ("Stretch clip to Now-time") which would add harmless data automatically. 

I think if you stretch the clip as you want and then enable grove clip it will retain its length.

I may be wrong about this, but after you apply slip editing, if you then do "Apply Trimming", does that make the clip change its length?

I kind of think since there is no audio data at the end of a slip edited clip, it's actual "length" is governed by the audio dat, not the size of the clip curtains.

...but I might be wrong, so don't quote me. 

:-)

OK so now I'm confused. In the project I was working in, clips that I'd resized to a round figure were reverting back to their original length when moved, and soens pointed out that this is expected behavior. I thought that was strange, because I'd never noticed it before when doing exactly the same thing. I thought I was going crazy. 

So I just tried an experiment. I started a new project and inserted a MIDI track. I then dragged a Groove Monkee MIDI drum pattern into the track from the browser. It had a length of 7:944, which I resized to 8:000. Now, when I move it around, it retains its size. In fact I can make it 16:000 and it still retains its size when I move it. Sonar does not truncate it to cut off the empty space. 
What is going on? Confused!