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2013/02/16 21:36:24
MrQuestion
Hi All
 
Went from X1 32bit/XP  to X2/64bitWin7
 
Everything is fine in X2 except drawing automation envelopes is totally messed up.
 
When I use the Automation Draw tool - X2 religiously redraws what I just drew except 3-6 db higher
 
Now there are a zillion complaints about the automation drawing tools, but I haven't heard anyone state this problem.
 
I wonder if it's my mouse driver - an ancient but reliable MS optical mouse - but everything else works fine
 
Any insights on this?
 
Thanks much      
2013/02/16 22:29:25
sharke
Are you expanding the automation lanes to their full width? I find it hard to draw automation with any kind of accuracy unless they're fully expanded, and even then I find myself wishing they would expand more. 
2013/02/16 22:49:12
Bub
Sounds like you have it set to display envelopes on a percentage scale.

Go in to Preferences > Customization > Display and see if "Display Envelopes on Percentage Scale" is checked.

If you make a change, it will not effect any envelopes you have already written, but it will effect new envelopes on a different track. IINM.
2013/02/16 22:54:10
Bub
From the manual ...
Display Envelopes on a Percentage Scale. This option, when checked, causes new envelopes to be placed in the clip based on a range where 0 dB is in the middle of the clip. If the current volume is other than 0 dB, a new envelope is created at that location. For example a new envelope created at 6 dB would appear at the very top of the clip where a new envelope created at -20 dB would appear near the bottom of the clip.
Hope this helps.
2013/02/16 23:12:25
gswitz
Watch out for off-set mode too... it's worth knowing about. It can cause some surprises...
2013/02/17 17:58:14
MrQuestion
Okay thanks fer your insight

Doesn't appear to be related to "display envelopes on a percentage scale" approach

Set up a new track - changed the option to both checked and unchecked, and restarted X2 on every trip. 

Basically - no matter what I do - using the "Draw Freehand" Tool, either in Draw or Line mode , I can draw the nodes or the line, and when I releast the mouse the edited points move up 3db or so.

It's a real pain cuz it makes it really really hard to smooth the automation curves. 

Offset mode investigations were no help either - but thanks 

Any other ideas - and thatnks fer talkin about this !  
2013/02/17 18:00:30
MrQuestion
Oy yeah - Sharke - I have the tracks fairly wide so accuracy is not the issue, but thanks! 
2013/02/18 01:05:56
FastBikerBoy
Does the same thing happen using the smart tool to draw? I don't see that sort of inaccuracy. Maybe .4 or .5 dB which I just put down to the resolution I'm working at. Just tried the draw tool and that's about the same.
2013/02/18 03:50:56
MrQuestion


Here's an image

Same envelope (pre-edit on left and post edit on right)

Using the Draw tool -( in either line or freehand mode) I left mouse button over the node
that has the left red arrow and drag to the node that has the right red arrow

Before I release the left mouse button - it all looks perfect - the new line goes node to node

However after I release the mouse botton - it pops up as shown on the right half. 

Don't know what the actual amount is but the bump is audible.

Nobody out there with this problem ?




2013/02/18 03:55:11
FastBikerBoy
Can't say I see that. Is it in all projects or just one?
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