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2013/02/14 07:13:04
vitalstates
 I've just installed X2 on a newly built win8 machine and transferred a few producer 6 projects. I'm finding my way around the new gui but I'm stumped with monitoring midi channels through TTS1(or any synth for that matter). I have a midi track with input set to layla midi omni...this shows meter movement when the piano is played. The output of the midi track is assigned to an audio track with TTS1 as the synth. The output of the audio track is assigned to layla audio out. the synth works if I assign prerecorded midi tracks to it. when I play the piano the meter moves on the midi track but NOT on the audio/TTS1 track and TTS1 will not sound the preview buttons on the bottom of the track display. Previously, on producer 6, I used this method to monitor piano playing but it doesn't seems to work here at all. Can anybody suggest where I might be going wrong.... I havn't applied the X2A patch yet.
2013/02/14 07:26:00
synkrotron
Not sure what your problem is to be honest, but I always make sure that I have "Always Echo Current MIDI Track" set to on (checked). To do that, bring up the preferences dialogue box by pressing "P" on your keyboard. In the MIDI section, select "Playback and Recording" and you will see the option in the Playback section.
2013/02/14 09:36:22
robert_e_bone
I am completely unsure of what 'layla' is, so forgive me if I miss the mark.

The basic routing assignments for a soft synth and associated audio track should be:

For the audio track (or tracks if stereo)
     Input: Should be set to the output of the soft synth
     Output: Should be to Master, or to a Bus (which then routes to Master)


For the Midi track: 
     Input: Set to omni in most cases
     Output: Set to the soft synth you want this track to trigger

For drums, I record them all on midi channel 10, and have separate audio tracks for each drum kit piece. 

I use dedicated midi channels for each soft synth instrument, whether that is multiple separate instances of synths or multiple instruments loaded in 1 synth (like TTS-1 or Kontakt).  

This is certainly not required - I do it so that if I ever create midi files of songs that they reduce the amount of prep work needed for someone else to open and use my midi file.  I download and use a lot of midi files that kind folks have put together, and I owe it back to that community to setup my midi files to be as easy to use as I can.

Sorry I drifted into midi channels.  I meant to stop at just saying that since you referenced TTS-1, which allows multiple intruments to be loaded, that what I would recommend is a separate midi track for each loaded instrument in TTS-1, with the Midi Output Channel assignment for each of those tracks to be set to the appropriate channel number for that track's intended instrument (and labelled as such).

Bottom line - please review your track routing assignments, as compared to my examples - try adjusting yours to match my suggestions, and post back with results - OR please let me know where I goofed in my read of your post, so that I can better address your situation.

Lastly, I preserve my paragraph formatting in this forum by using Chrome.  I believe Firefox has issues - but I think this depends on which version of Firefox one is using.  I think IE may also work, for preserving post formatting, but I am not completely sure.  I just use Chrome and it works.  

Bob Bone




2013/02/14 10:03:00
synkrotron
Bob, it's been a long time, ever since I started using soft synths, that I have ever bothered with MIDI channels. Channel 10, as you state, was always the default for drums... brings back happy memories haha.

I must admit that I've never used TTS as a multi-timbral "device" so it may be that it would still be important to keep on top of MIDI channels.

cheers

andy
2013/02/14 10:39:56
vitalstates
 Hi Bob you wrote: For the audio track (or tracks if stereo) Input: Should be set to the output of the soft synth Output: Should be to Master, or to a Bus (which then routes to Master) For the Midi track: Input: Set to omni in most cases Output: Set to the soft synth you want this track to trigger ------------------------------------------------------------- That's exactly what I have....been doing it for 10 years like that...and now it doesn't work... I was thinking it's something I don't know about in X2...maybe not... btw ..layla is echo layla 3G...but apart form drivers for win8 nothing has changed here for a long while.
2013/02/14 11:06:02
vitalstates
 Ok...looks like the problem has gone away....I just installed a vst tuner plug and when I'd finished the midi monitoring started working......go figure! Not sure where the hang up was but it may be a while before I'm confident with this set-up... thanks for looking Ed
2013/02/14 11:55:13
scook
Bob has had that effect before.
2013/02/14 12:01:04
vitalstates
 Ahhhhhhhhh....................problem has not gone away................just created a new audio track, put TTS1 in the track...set output to normal audio output...set input to the midi track...what I play into the midi shows on the meter but doesn't go through to the audio track(doesn't show on the audio meter)...also the preview buttons don't work at all on TTS1........please excuse the dots I don't seem to be able to put in 'newlines' for readability . . . Ed
2013/02/14 12:06:09
scook
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2013/02/14 15:04:34
robert_e_bone

scook


Bob has had that effect before. 

Now THAT's funny! :)
@vitalstates

Thanks for explaining.  


Do you have the midi track selected, and the Input Echo button 'On' for that midi track?  I just opened a new project, followed the steps I listed above, and TTS-1 plays just fine - I have Input Echo on for that piano track.

Bob Bone

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