I guess it's a matter of preference, but I don't know why anyone would consider this an issue.  There are several inexpensive music notation programs that you can use.  The midi files I've imported into my projects have always included dynamics and other expression I created in my original score.  I've never had any issues.  If I need to tweak the midi tracks I actually think it's easier to use the PRV.  I'm using Finale Allegro right now but I've also used a relatively inexpensive shareware program called Mozart for years and it is excellent.
 
I would actually prefer that Cakewalk focus on other things and not waste their time on a notation feature.   

This thread caused me to search for the comment by Cakewalk's Alex Westner in a SONAR 8.5 thread, in which he stated that Cakewalk was quite aware of what needed to be done to improve the Staff View, but did not have it as a priority at that time.  It was a reassuring post for those of us who feel an improved Staff View is a high priority, and I was going to quote it (again) here.

Today, I cannot find that post!  For the first time in awhile, my confidence that this will be addressed has been shaken.

JClosed

  -if you need it- buy a notation program on top of it.

As I said - notation in X1 has to be up to par with previous versions, but I just do not want to pay more for Sonar for something I rarely use. I do think that there are more users like me.

I rather have Sonar for a lower price than Cubase etc., and let the people that really need a full blown notation pay $200,- for the "notation expansion". In practice however, it is just as easy to buy Sonar and -if you need it- buy a notation program on top of it.

What you fail to understand is that having a notation program is not the same thing.  I have Sibelius but it doesn't allow me to COMPOSE WITH NOTATION INSIDE SONAR.

jmtitus


I guess it's a matter of preference, but I don't know why anyone would consider this an issue.  There are several inexpensive music notation programs that you can use.  The midi files I've imported into my projects have always included dynamics and other expression I created in my original score.  I've never had any issues.  If I need to tweak the midi tracks I actually think it's easier to use the PRV.  I'm using Finale Allegro right now but I've also used a relatively inexpensive shareware program called Mozart for years and it is excellent.
 
I would actually prefer that Cakewalk focus on other things and not waste their time on a notation feature.   

Of course you would like Cakewalk to focus only on things you use.  I don't use looping and audio snap but if others do that's fine.  I need to use notation to COMPOSE WITH IN SONAR.  My Sibelius 6.0 does not allow me to do that.

riojazz


This thread caused me to search for the comment by Cakewalk's Alex Westner in a SONAR 8.5 thread, in which he stated that Cakewalk was quite aware of what needed to be done to improve the Staff View, but did not have it as a priority at that time.  It was a reassuring post for those of us who feel an improved Staff View is a high priority, and I was going to quote it (again) here.

Today, I cannot find that post!  For the first time in awhile, my confidence that this will be addressed has been shaken.

As I have said before, Sonar has been re-marketed for the hobbyist which is why they don't develop pro features instead adding Pro Channel (which is redundant at best for pro users) and Microsoft Silverlight  (which dumbs the program down for beginners).  So don't count on things such as notation or video improvements.

Actually, before Pro Audio and Sonar, Cakewalk was a notion program designed to compose by manually editing notes on the staff.  That was why I bought it many years ago and largely how I have used it to date.  Yes, they have changed direction (a few times, it seems as many of you have noted on the forum), but that doesn't excuse them for their half-*ssed execution of staff view to date. 

I've used Cakewalk since the version 2 in the DOS days and there were no staff notation view. Cakewalk had always been a "sequencer" and not a "notation software" even back then.

If I remember correctly they added notation in the mid 90's when they came out with their first Windows 3.1 version.  Of course it's been largely ignored since then.

mudskipper

Actually, before Pro Audio and Sonar, Cakewalk was a notion program designed to compose by manually editing notes on the staff.  That was why I bought it many years ago and largely how I have used it to date.  Yes, they have changed direction (a few times, it seems as many of you have noted on the forum), but that doesn't excuse them for their half-*ssed execution of staff view to date. 

I've used Cakewalk since the version 2 in the DOS days and there were no staff notation view. Cakewalk had always been a "sequencer" and not a "notation software" even back then.

Of course there was no Staff View in the DOS days - IT WAS A CHARACTER BASED APPLICATION.
 
As soon as the first Windows version came out which had a Staff View, I jumped on it.

riojazz


This thread caused me to search for the comment by Cakewalk's Alex Westner in a SONAR 8.5 thread, in which he stated that Cakewalk was quite aware of what needed to be done to improve the Staff View, but did not have it as a priority at that time.  It was a reassuring post for those of us who feel an improved Staff View is a high priority, and I was going to quote it (again) here.

Today, I cannot find that post!  For the first time in awhile, my confidence that this will be addressed has been shaken.

This is the thread, post #2 - from Brandon:
 
http://forum.cakewalk.com/tm.aspx?m=2119593
 
I do think this will be addressed, or there will be migration to another DAW by a number of people.

vintagevibe

jmtitus


I guess it's a matter of preference, but I don't know why anyone would consider this an issue.  There are several inexpensive music notation programs that you can use.  The midi files I've imported into my projects have always included dynamics and other expression I created in my original score.  I've never had any issues.  If I need to tweak the midi tracks I actually think it's easier to use the PRV.  I'm using Finale Allegro right now but I've also used a relatively inexpensive shareware program called Mozart for years and it is excellent.

I would actually prefer that Cakewalk focus on other things and not waste their time on a notation feature.   

Of course you would like Cakewalk to focus only on things you use.  I don't use looping and audio snap but if others do that's fine.  I need to use notation to COMPOSE WITH IN SONAR.  My Sibelius 6.0 does not allow me to do that.

It's useless to try to explain this to people.  (I'm tempted to pull out more of my hair).