I post this in support of those that want better notation in Sonar.

It seems as though many Sonar users who like to use the staff to create midi events (but also need multitrack recording and editing)  have found a solution similar to mine.  It was good hear of other solutions as well.  Its just too bad there is a need to discuss other programs to supplement the DAW we all seem to love.  I'm looking forward to the day when Cakewalk/Roland regains my trust and earns the loyalty that so many of us have displayed over the decades by putting staff view users back on their "priority" list.

Nevermind that one no longer have different snap to grid settings for the various views is X1.

Oh, yes you do. Its up on the Control bar. 

I would GLADLY pay however much more money for full notation editing capabilities!! Yes, I am proposing we throw money at the situation...

pbognar

riojazz


This thread caused me to search for the comment by Cakewalk's Alex Westner in a SONAR 8.5 thread, in which he stated that Cakewalk was quite aware of what needed to be done to improve the Staff View, but did not have it as a priority at that time.  It was a reassuring post for those of us who feel an improved Staff View is a high priority, and I was going to quote it (again) here.

Today, I cannot find that post!  For the first time in awhile, my confidence that this will be addressed has been shaken.

This is the thread, post #2 - from Brandon:
 
http://forum.cakewalk.com/tm.aspx?m=2119593
 
I do think this will be addressed, or there will be migration to another DAW by a number of people.

Good find, pbognar.  Thank you.  I remember this post, and although this is not the post I was looking for, it does say the same thing.

backwoods


The "Staff" views on all DAWs are only suitable for "semi pro" "hobbyist". If you are dead serious you will fork out for Sibeliuis or Finale. 

The "Staff" views on all DAWs are only suitable for "semi pro" "hobbyist". If you are dead serious you will fork out for Sibeliuis or Finale.

Semi-pro hobbyst???
That's not true! Are you a "pro" composer? Do you compose based on the track view? Piano roll? C'mon

I'm an "old school" professional composer, I still use staff sheet scores when orchestrating on the piano, I started with Cakewalk with its DOS version (then Cake for Windows came, WOW!) and it was a sequencer that need a large staff sheet (paper) for a composer / orchestrator like me to be useful. When STAFF VIEW came it was a great relief since I could arrange directly in the sequencer. I always used a different notation program (finale or encore) for printing out sheets, but for composing I still need written music.
Do you really think taht every composer can create a multi part arrangement out of teh piano roll view? Seriouslly?

I found this post since now I expanding an old composition (film score) to add 2 aditional minutes with added beckground parts. I need to "see" in the scort (chart) if the new lines work with the previous voicings. I need a full screen staff sheet for that. AND I CAN'T  USE SNAP SETTINGS in X1e like I used to in 6 and 8.5, it just doesn't work.

this is a real step backwards since I can do taht sequencing on finale.

Anybody know how to set SNAP settings in staff view actually?

dd

I would like to point out that i have seen ads in mags albeit a few years ago where one of the points about Sonar was "professional scoring".

Sonar is becoming more loop/DJ based. Will history repeat - remember the failed Project 5?

Rickbass


I would GLADLY pay however much more money for full notation editing capabilities!! Yes, I am proposing we throw money at the situation...

Oh geeesh, let's not start up on that again!! LOL!!,,,and, yes, if it did need some extra money then I would gladly pay as well... 


I just find it rather interesting that there are people here who seem to think that it would cost an arm and a leg to actually FIX what is already there.


And, yes, I know about the excuse, er, reason that it was only for exporting certain files into some other notation software... 

I think it's funny when someone dredges up a thread from nearly a year ago to argue a point with someone. 

I wont be upgrading my x1 until the staff view is fixed/revamped..  By then other daws with better notation and 64bit will be considered.. 

I'm fed up of hoping and applying blind faith... 

Any recent word from the bakers on the subject ..... ??? Er no..