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  • Sonar 8.5.3 x64 won't work with Presonus Audiobox 44VSL ASIO driver (p.2)
2013/02/01 15:57:32
stevec
Great sound from your Scarlett. Grey Morning Myst sounds good. How did you get that sound level of clear in-your-face acoustic mix without distorting or muddying? Nice job.

 
Thanks!  Although I have to admit that tune was done using my old Roland VM3100 mixer/RPC1 interface, way before I had the Scarlett.
 
And as far as the acoustic sound goes, I think it sounds very clear as well.  But I can't attribute that to any audio interface - it's actually an acoustic guitar patch from Dim Pro.  
 
2013/02/01 17:34:41
chitwilber
I hope you get this solved. Please see my thread at
http://forum.cakewalk.com/tm.aspx?m=2764001

I should have named it
Sonar 8.5.3/ 1818VSL compatibilty problem
but I didn't know how it was going to turn out.
2013/02/01 19:23:06
madogmusic
chitwilber


I hope you get this solved. Please see my thread at
http://forum.cakewalk.com/tm.aspx?m=2764001

I should have named it
Sonar 8.5.3/ 1818VSL compatibilty problem
but I didn't know how it was going to turn out.



First off, I feel your pain and understand how extraordinarly miffed you are right now... because I'm swimming in that same mudhole.  Two weeks is a lot of time to spend fooling around with a huge distraction from my work.  


I had pops and static on installs of the 1.2 and 1.21 driver installation packages for Windows sound applications, Real Player, Media Player, Youtube, etc.  Sonar 8.5.3 had no sound in or out at all with the Audiobox 44VSL ASIO.  I tried EVERYTHING.  Finally Presonus tech support told me it may take several installations before the driver works without static.  They were right.  After half a dozen tries (after following all of the suggestions from Presonus and the forums), all windows sound applications work well now completely static free.  But  Sonar still does not play or record audio using ASIO.  Everything else (fingers crossed) is crystal clear.


Presonus also told me my only option in Sonar was to use the WDM driver -- and that seems to work fine.  The helpful guys here on the Cakewalk forums seem to generally agree that ASIO is not necessarily better than WDM in all cases.  I assume you're beating your head against this wall over the ASIO driver -- I can't remember for sure if you are? So WDM seems to do the job for me.  I'm still putting it through its paces before my vendor return period runs out, but it seems ok.


As for the Audiobox driver number confusion, it looks to me like they have a driver installation package with one numbering scheme: v1.2, 1.2.1 beta, etc.  And the actual drivers once unpacked have a different numbering scheme( v1.57 looks like it's the unpacked driver from the 1.2.1 beta installation package).  (Good thinking, Presonus programmers.)  Re-read the comments on your thread again and they might make more sense with this in mind.


I was a software programmer for awhile.  Letting bad drivers go out that affect thousands of customers, is not too swift.  Causes a lot of needless pain and suffering.  And a lot of heated conversation.  Fortunately there are good people in these forums who take the time to help where they can.


Good luck.
Gary
2013/02/01 21:11:56
haydn12
I have yet to record using the mic inputs as I normally use an external preamp.  I plan on doing a live symphonic band recording in another month to see how the preamps sound.

Jim
2013/02/10 18:10:20
JazzSinger
Same issue here, AudioBox 22VSL.
 
Old ASIO drivers (supplied on CD) work (8.5, X1 and X2), but the new downloaded drivers do not. 
 
The PreSonus help gives no explanation, just says in case of problems use WDM. It works, but I can't say I'm delighted. 
 
As the OP noted, other products, Audacity for example, work fine.
 
So is Sonar doing something wrong?
2013/02/10 19:07:57
robert_e_bone
I had issue with another program called Forte, which stopped working after I updated my Presonus Audiobox 1818 VSL drivers.

Turned out that Presonus started using some new variable that nobody else used, and the Forte folks were kind enough to patch THEIR product to fix the Presonus-caused problems.

It may well be that kind of thing, except in your case maybe something alien that Presonus does was not counted on by the developers at Cakewalk.

Bob Bone

2013/02/11 10:08:22
robert_e_bone
I just remembered another person recently posting about a disconnect between Presonus drivers and 8.5.3 - although they were having trouble with an Audiobox 1818VSL.

I do not know if any of this applies, but here is the forum link to that thread: 

http://forum.cakewalk.com...;m=2764001&mpage=2

Bob Bone

2013/02/16 00:41:41
madogmusic
Problem solved.  Returned the Presonus 44VSL.  Purchased MOTU 4pre.  Converters sound more clear and crisp - sound stage for mixing seems sharper, more defined.  No driver problems at all - install was soothingly uneventful - up and running in no time - no calls to tech support.  Cost $150 more, but the 4 weeks worth of 44VSL headaches are gone.  Everything just works.  Happy, happy, happy.  Thanks to all for the help.

Gary Polvinale
chitwilber


I hope you get this solved. Please see my thread at
http://forum.cakewalk.com/tm.aspx?m=2764001

I should have named it
Sonar 8.5.3/ 1818VSL compatibilty problem
but I didn't know how it was going to turn out.



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