Hey Scott it worked, Thanks, the only thing I did differently from your suggestion and the other guy who had this problem was I deleted everything in that folder since It wasn't working any way, I hope I don't need any of it. But I got the files in case I do. I only tested this on LA2A then I restarted sonar, still worked, then I restarted DAW, still worked, so I confident that this is resolved. Thanks again.