As we all know, sonar 2 has not implemented VST3 technology in its latest version.
But,how is possible  cakewalk Compressor AC-2a T-type is VST3 compatible?
Is this perhaps a joke????
Many users are asking for the update to VST3 since a couple of years, and the answer was always: this update is not necessary 
and now their new plugins if they meet the VST3 standard.
I like the cakewalk software, but honestly, I do not like or understand this type of action.

What is the issue? They have a few plugins that support VST3 and have yet to rewrite the DAW to support VST3 plugins. How are the two equivalent? I guess it is time for another VST3 thread.

scook


What is the issue? They have a few plugins that support VST3 and have yet to rewrite the DAW to support VST3 plugins. How are the two equivalent? I guess it is time for another VST3 thread.

The issue is if their position with respect to adding it to the DAW is it is not necessary then why did they implement it in a plug?

They have said they have plans to implement VST3 in SONAR but other issues have priority. Are you suggesting they should not release a VST3 version of their plugins?

There are 2 MAIN reasons WHY Cake hasn't implemented VST 3.

ONE

The cost of re-writing the entire program for VST 3 Support,
which, BTW, should have been done several years ago...

TWO

They don't like STEINBERG - and, as always, their "desire" to show this is
expressed in the failure to implement new standards, because STEINBERG develops them...

That being said, there have been NUMEROUS freds in regards to this...

The BOTTON LINE.....THEY DON"T really want to do it...
BUT....with EVERYTHING and EVERYONE now supporting VST 3...as ALWAYS
Cakewalk will be dragged, kicking and screaming like a child, into
implementing it....I've stated this FOR YEARS....and they ALWAYS end
up doing it...because they HAVE TO...NOT because they WANT to....

It happened with VST
It happened with VST3..
It WILL happen with VST 4 etc...etc...ad nauseum...

Some companies just can't see the FOREST for the TREES...
and instead of implementing NEW technologies EARLY that people NEED...
they instead OPT to implement things like TOUCH, which, while being kewl and
all, really is NOT at this point NECESSARY, as the price of Touch Screen monitors
and such is still cost prohibitive for most....AND they don't make the TOUCH option
even an OPTION...if you install X2a....YOU GET TOUCH...and ALL that goes with it...
EVEN though YOU may NEVER use it...and even though ALL that goes with it
may HURT your DAW performance....rather then help it...

Anyways...that is that...in a nutshell

Why do we need this right now? Is it because "3" sounds better than "2"?


> The issue is if their position with respect to adding it to the DAW is it is not necessary then why did they implement it in a plug?




Sorry that's not a real world issue. Chicken and egg arguments are just paperwork not an actual reason.

CakeAlexS

Why do we need this right now? Is it because "3" sounds better than "2"?

> The issue is if their position with respect to adding it to the DAW is it is not necessary then why did they implement it in a plug?

Sorry that's not a real world issue. Chicken and egg arguments are just paperwork not an actual reason.

Quote from Steinberg's web site.

"With VST (Virtual Studio Technology), Steinberg established the world’s leading and most widely supported standard for plug-ins and virtual instruments in 1996. With VST3 Steinberg releases the next major revision of Steinberg’s Virtual Studio Technology to the audio industry. VST3 marks an important milestone in audio technology with a completely rewritten code base providing not only many new features but also the most stable and reliable VST platform ever. This combination of latest technology and new features is the result of Steinberg’s twelve years of development experience as the leading plug-in interface provider. VST3 has been designed to provide a technological and creative basis for many innovative and exciting new products for the audio industry, offering a new world of creative possibilities for instrument and effect plug-in users. The VST3 SDK is available as a free technology, open in use for any developer"

Heaven forbid we should want any of that.

New code, more stability, more reliability, more features, more creative possibilities, it's FREE to developers.

Yeah, I can understand why Cakewalk hates it.

This is a HUGE benefit ...

"Managing large plug-in sets and multiple virtual instruments on typical studio computer systems can often be difficult because of CPU performance limits. VST3 helps to improve overall performance by applying processing to plug-ins only when audio signals are present on their respective inputs. Instead of always processing input signals, VST3 plug-ins can apply their processing economically and only when it is needed."

Well ... here ...

Read for yourself.

There isn't a single thing in the VST3 format that isn't a huge improvement.

Sorry that's not a real world issue. Chicken and egg arguments are just paperwork not an actual reason.

I don't know what that means.