• SONAR
  • "Block" mode like Reason, FL-Studio
2013/02/11 15:39:00
Entity2
I've searched and searched and searched, playing with all sorts of terms, but I can't come up with anything. And maybe that's because their simply is nothing in Sonar X2 which will do it.

Propellerhead Reason and FL-Studio both offer something called 'Block' mode, and I'm wondering if there's some means of doing this within Sonar. Youtube video demonstrating it: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oqU1JHtAjq4

More and more, I'm finding that I don't really know the whole song in my head before I get it into the timeline in Sonar and find I want to make either some small or rather significant additions somewhere in the middle of the song. I see no convenient way in Sonar to handle something like this short of taking a guess and choosing 'Insert Time'.

I've toyed around with using ReWire or running other DAWs as synths, but the performance and usability is pretty ugly. This feature's apparent lack of existance is becoming something of a showstopper, but I can't imagine that with all of the content produced in Sonar over the years that there isn't some method of doing it, be in intrinsic or an external add-on.

I was surprised at how difficult it really is to search this situation up in Google, so I come here hoping someone has run into this as well.

Thanks
2013/02/11 16:10:54
Beepster
I think you can use the Track View Overview thingie to edit which would be an easy way to create a hunk of space wherever you want across all tracks. 

Probably not a good idea to tout features of other DAWs right now but I'm going to give you the benefit of the doubt and assume your query is genuine. There are lots of ways to do what you are describing in Sonar. Not sure what's wrong with Insert Time or Select All > Split then move things over. It's not a big deal.
2013/02/11 16:24:54
Beepster
I did a search (not clicking your link). Look into using the Matrix View in conjunction with the Track View. Just a different way of working but it's just as good if not better.
2013/02/11 16:42:09
John
  You don't need it or want it in Sonar. Loops is the term you may want to think about. 
2013/02/11 17:17:23
Beepster
I have a feeling our friend here wasn't looking for any real help. I shouldn't have replied. 

Moving along then.
2013/02/11 17:44:20
John
  Beep if he comes back and attacks us we will know for sure. BTW FL 10 has gotten rid of "blocks". Their just loops like in Sonar.  
2013/02/11 17:52:20
Beepster
I've been looking at some vids showing it in use. I'm not seeing how it would be particularly beneficial.
2013/02/11 17:54:40
John
Beepster


I've been looking at some vids showing it in use. I'm not seeing how it would be particularly beneficial.
Their not. Notice I haven't commented on Reason? I know nothing about it. 

2013/02/11 19:31:56
AndyDavis
I have Sonar and Reason and understand what blocks bring to the party.

There is really nothing quite like blocks in Sonar.  If that's vital to how you see using the program and the alternatives suggested above don't get it done for you, I would suggest that you keep looking.
2013/02/11 19:39:39
Susan G
Hi John-



BTW FL 10 has gotten rid of "blocks". Their just loops like in Sonar.



FL 10 hasn't gotten rid of blocks entirely, but it's now a legacy feature (with much debate on the IL forum!)


They're not the same as loops in SONAR. What I like(d) about them was the ability to try out multiple ideas before committing one to the Playlist. I can still do that in FL 10, so it's no great loss, but just to be clear, a Pattern or Block in FL doesn't equal a loop in SONAR.


-Susan
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