• SONAR
  • "Block" mode like Reason, FL-Studio (p.3)
2013/02/13 09:43:50
Oddmeister
One other workaround that you could try is this:

1: Put all your tracks into one track folder.

2: Then drag the divider between the folder and the first track down to expose the folder properties. As you do this you will also see a  folder block in the clips pane that shows all of the tracks that belong to the folder block.


3: You can click on the folder block and all of the related tracks will become selected.

4: Now you can split the folder block and all of the related tracks will also be split.

5: You can also edit the individual tracks that the folder block relates to, create new sections etc

6: Now you can CTRL drag to duplicate the folder blocks (new sections) and drag them around to create a new arrangement.  

7: You can also change the colours of the individual (new) folder blocks to help identify different sections, this is done by clicking on the folder block then selecting clip on the track inspector and choosing a colour for the foreground. (just make sure that all the tracks that the folder block relates to are highlighted).

Hope this helps as a workaround, I find that it provides similar functionality to blocks in Reason.

Oddmeister 
2013/02/14 13:17:29
elijahlucian
Yeah I honestly never use the blocks in FL studio anymore. as soon as they switched to playlist clips, that was the way to go for me...

I feel they are just as fast as blocks and I work FAST. I have a one-hour beats challenge to prove it. 

HOWEVER

I have to say that when it comes to speed of drum programming, and sometimes MIDI. fl studio is WAY faster than Sonar.. by a landslide. 

I know both daws very well so I am not a noob at shortcuts (tho sometimes I forget the odd used one). each has their strengths and weaknesses. If only I could get FL to work in sonar as a VSTi life would be perfect. alas. the finger pointing game starts.

Loop clips are pretty fast in sonar, but when it comes to sequencing out different beats and using the playlist in FL? it is about 5 times faster easily. 

I hate HATE HATE the workflow in Reason, it is SO unintuitive... the playlist and block modes need all kinds of modifier keys just to work properly. 

Sonar has made progress in the sketching department, but I still do all my sketching in FL studio..


p.s. 

if you set up a template with sonar that has some pre-loaded drums in battery or something like that, it gets way faster..

use the step sequencer, which automatically creates loop clips, and then to test out a new clip just click the SS at the top of your drum plugin.

having the SS and the samplers native to the FL daw takes out a lot of steps.. and the SS in fl studio is tons faster than in Sonar 
2013/02/14 13:29:47
Susan G
Hi Elijah-


If only I could get FL to work in sonar as a VSTi life would be perfect. alas. the finger pointing game starts.



I don't have X1 or 2 installed, but I've used FL as a VSTi in SONAR for years. Is the problem a new one for you with the X series, and can you describe what doesn't work?


Thanks-


-Susan
2013/02/14 13:42:39
elijahlucian
here is the thread... still nothing working : http://forum.cakewalk.com...?m=2482820&mpage=1

I actually did have problems in 8.5, sometimes I would stop the audio in sonar but it would keep playing in FL.

what ver of FL are you using? I think 9 was the last stable vsti release...


I am going to wait till FL 11 comes out, finish off some of my projects that i loaded in 10 beta then just uninstall fl completely and just go back to fl9 for drum sequencing. 
2013/02/14 14:20:41
Susan G
elijahlucian


here is the thread... still nothing working : http://forum.cakewalk.com...?m=2482820&mpage=1

I actually did have problems in 8.5, sometimes I would stop the audio in sonar but it would keep playing in FL.

what ver of FL are you using? I think 9 was the last stable vsti release...


I am going to wait till FL 11 comes out, finish off some of my projects that i loaded in 10 beta then just uninstall fl completely and just go back to fl9 for drum sequencing. 
I see. I'm betwixt and between systems at the moment and I don't remember if I was on FL 9 or 10 when things were working smoothly b/w SONAR and FL. I know I had some conversations with Fred at IL about synching the two, but IIRC the last .dll resolved the problems.


As far as rendering the FL tracks, I'll have to check. I know I usually had a combination of SONAR MIDI tracks outputting to FL and "native" FL MIDI and I don't recall a problem off the top of my head, but again, I'll have to look back at it.


-Susan


2013/02/14 14:27:05
elijahlucian
yeah this problem occoured since x1 and fl 10..I am gonna try and re-install FL 9 but I need to finish some critical projects first lol
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