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2013/02/11 14:14:18
sharke
Hopefully someone more knowledgeable with settings can clear this up for me!

I have a clip full of MIDI notes. The second half of it is empty. All I want to do is copy the notes in the first half and paste them into the second half. 

However, if I lasso-select all of these notes, the entire clip as a unit is selected, so that when I paste them into the second half, it overlays a whole new clip of the same size starting from that point. I don't want to create a new clip, I just want to paste the notes into the existing clip. 

I'm not sure what's going on here with selection. If I lasso-select all of the notes except one, just those notes are selected, and not the whole clip. Therefore when I paste them into the second half, it just pastes the notes without creating a new clip. 

So I'm guessing the rule here is: if you select all of the notes in a clip, the whole clip itself will be selected, and you'll be creating a new clip if you copy and paste them. If you select anything less than all the notes, then just the notes will be selected and you'll be merely pasting the notes by themselves if you copy and paste them. 

Not sure I understand the logic behind this....but I'd certainly like to turn it off because it's stopping me from doing what I want to do. Any suggestions? 
2013/02/11 14:17:56
scook
I use the PRV for that stuff
2013/02/11 14:24:35
stonehedge
In Track view. Split the clip in half, delete the empty half select the first half , copy and paste it to where the deleted half was.
2013/02/11 14:25:04
sharke
scook


I use the PRV for that stuff

I am using the PRV. I am selecting and pasting the notes in the PRV, but when I select all of the notes in the clip in order to paste them elsewhere in the clip, it selects the whole clip and creates a whole new clip when I paste them. But when I select anything less than all of the notes, it just selects the notes themselves and doesn't create a new clip when I paste them. 
2013/02/11 14:26:29
sharke
stonehedge


Split the clip in half, delete the empty half select the first half , copy and paste it to where the delete half was.

I did think about that as a workaround, but really I shouldn't have to do that...I should be able to just select some notes and paste them anywhere in a clip without it creating a new clip. This is expected editing functionality and I'm sure I must be able to do what I want to without creating a new clip. A setting maybe? I can't find one...
2013/02/11 14:30:03
stonehedge
In PRV lasso the notes you want and while holding down (I think) the control key drag the hilighted notes to where you want them and let go.
2013/02/11 14:32:51
stevec
You could also try lasso-selecting across the mid-point of the first and last notes instead of around them, just in case there's something about the clip extents coming into play.
 
2013/02/11 14:36:06
Bub
Maybe try dragging the edge of the clip out longer before you double click it to open PRV?

I just tried editing a midi clip, I lasso'd all the notes and copied them to another measure right after and it automatically made the clip longer, it didn't create another one. I'm wondering if there's a setting somewhere that enables this to happen? I looked, but I don't see anything that jumps out at me.
2013/02/11 14:39:03
Bub
Got it!

Groove clips do this when you edit them in PRV.

It must be a groove clip.


2013/02/11 15:11:26
sharke
Not a groove clip :(

Try making a clip of one bar and putting a few MIDI notes in there. Then extend the clip to two bars. Now, lasso all of the notes you made. Does this select the whole clip? Next try selecting all of the notes but one. In the clips pane, only the part of the clip that encompasses the notes is selected. Same for you?
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