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  • Annoying problem regarding note/clip selection (p.2)
2013/02/11 15:17:11
Beepster
I'm not following. I copy, Ctrl + Lasso, Drag Drop all the time in the PRV and the clip just updates automatically. Is that what you are trying to do?

One thing that I've had happen a few times is once the notes are dropped a couple of them are no longer highlighted. Sometimes I want to Ctrl + Drag them again but I have to manually reselect those notes. Weird bug. 
2013/02/11 15:31:22
sharke
Hmm. Maybe I'll knock up a graphic when I get home later to show you what I mean. 
2013/02/11 15:43:54
Bub
sharke

Not a groove clip :(

Try making a clip of one bar and putting a few MIDI notes in there. Then extend the clip to two bars. Now, lasso all of the notes you made. Does this select the whole clip? Next try selecting all of the notes but one. In the clips pane, only the part of the clip that encompasses the notes is selected. Same for you?
I just tried it again.

I made a clip one measure in length, with 4 notes in it.

I lasso copied the notes and pasted them to measure 2 and it extended the length of the original clip to 2 measures.

I set it all back to 1 measure, right clicked, and made it a Groove Clip. I lasso'd all the notes in the 1 measure clip, pasted them at the 2 measure point, and it made a new clip.

There has to be a setting some where.
2013/02/11 15:45:00
Bub
Once I set it to be a Groove Clip, even if I only select some of the notes, it still creates a whole new clip.
2013/02/11 15:51:45
Beepster
If you give me a text based step by step I can try to duplicate it. I just turned off my DAW (was gonna try to do some work today but I feel like crap... some **** rang my phone at 7am for some stupid reason) but I'm still sitting in my studio for a while.

I'm pretty sure the workflow I have going will provide the results you want but I'm not sure if I'm understanding what you are trying to do. The main thing that is tripping me up is when you say "create a clip". I'd normally do this by just selecting the track then opening Views > PRV then entering my notes. I don't know how to create an empty MIDI clip.
2013/02/11 15:53:20
Beepster
lol... the word I typed isn't 4 letters. Guess I should have typed "arse cavity" instead. Hilarious.
2013/02/11 16:14:27
sharke
OK:

1) Record a bar's worth of MIDI notes (e.g. 4 kick notes)


2) Extend the resultant clip to 2 bars and open it in the PRV


3) In the PRV, lasso all of the notes. Don't lasso over the clip boundary. 


Does doing so select the entire clip in the clips pane? It does for me. And when I try to paste those notes into the empty part of the clip, it creates a whole new clip on top of the first one. 


Now try selecting all of the notes but one. When I do that, the only part of the clip that appears selected in the clip pane, is the part that encompasses the notes I selected. It doesn't select the whole clip. And when I paste those notes into the empty part of the clip, it just pastes the notes without creating a new clip. 


Hope that makes sense - I typed it on my phone :)


2013/02/11 16:28:56
Beepster
Firing up the rig now to try but one thing that comes to mind is some of the odd selection behavior in X2. I have made it a habit to constantly press Ctrl + Shift + A (Select None) before making any editing moves. Sounds like that might be causing your problem.

Gonna try it out now though. 
2013/02/11 16:40:26
Beepster
Just tried the first part with and without doing the Ctrl + Shift + A and neither way is creating a new clip. I also tried staying within the clip range and extending beyond it when I did my copy drag and still didn't get a duplicate clip.

Might be a setting somewhere you've enabled. I'm trying to scour my brain for what it could be.

I'll let you know if I think of something. Cheers.
2013/02/11 16:47:58
Beepster
Nope... just tried Replace Old with New and poked around the preferences... can't think of anything. Are you doing the Copy Drag in the full PRV or the Inline PRV?
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