Regarding good save habits, I generally agree But on the other hand, it's 2013. 20 minutes is far below what I'd call a reasonable expectation for crash free up-time.

Yup I love my Saffire Pro 40. Stability wise. Run windows update. Update your PC chip set drivers. Update your sound, graphics drivers, music controllers, network card, every driver you can. Update your firmware everywhere and PC BIOS. Update and review your plugins. Run scan disk then defrag. If that doesn't work you need to do some tweaking. Leaving at that for now....

I have the Focusrite Saffire Pro 40 and I get crashes too that I don't think has anything to do with every body that doesn't have problems quick diagnosis of our systems. Simple things crash that I still can't believe. Makes me stop making music for a while and work on mixing skills or something else.

DigitalBoston

CakeAlexS


Very stable. Last week I did about 10 hours of recording. In one instance record was on for 2 hours.

Focusrite Saffire Pro 40

as i said this is solid hardware tested with sonar. but most dont run hardware this solid, try a internal card tell me if you get 10 hours with a drop

Echo Lalyla3G here-INTERNAL CARD-Runs smooth as silk for years with Sonar. up to and including X2a.
 
My intention is NOT to beat up the op but check out the stuff he said he had to turn off and now Sonar works?
 
Unreal. I have to wonder how many of these-it crashes everytime folks (not the op) have been forthcoming with the apps actually imnstalled on their daws. Once again, not meaning the OP, he was open and honest.

CJaysMusic

YOU agree?

I just lost 20 minutes work .......GJ!

No, i have not had a crash in X1 or X2 and i use Sonar daily, at least 4 hours a day.
 
If you lost 20 mibnutes of work, then you need to learn hoe to press the "SAVE" button every now and them. dont blame your screw up on Sonar. Its not thier fault you have a flawed workflow. I actually never lost any work in over 7 years of using sonar on a dialy basis..
 
CJ

Yeah Heroics ... this is the guy you want to be taking advice from. 4 hours a day for 7 years straight and "never" lost work? Sorry Cj, that's a crock of ****.

Ever since this Skylight interface was introduced, Sonar has not worked right.

It amazes me how the same 5 or 6 people always come on here and say how great it is and never crashes, and in their very same posts say, "Oh yeah, but I am seeing this bad thing happen, but Sonar works great, no problems"

So, compare those 5 or 6 people to the long time forum members like me who have had nothing but headaches across multiple DAW's, all the people who were regular forum members that ditched Sonar that don't come here any more, and all the new people here lately showing up saying how many problems they're having with it, and pretty soon you start to see a very clear picture.

I saw a long time forum member post here the other day and said he used V-vocal for the first time ... yet he's always saying how he doesn't see the problems that others do. Well that's because you don't use the damn program fully like the rest of us are.

Not everybody has the disposable income to piss away on thousands of dollars worth of plug-in's. The reason most of us go to Sonar is because of the value of it with all of it's tools and extra's in the Producer Edition. So when you don't have thousands to piss away on software, or have enough responsibility to not use cracked software, you kind of take it personal when the software you paid $400 bucks for doesn't work the way it's advertised to work.

If I would have known now what I knew back when this crap with the X series started, I would have stopped giving my money to Cakewalk, gave it to Reaper and spent the money I had left over on VST's that actually work.

I realy think its a plugin messing with my setup .......just now Sonar ran over 9 hours ...no crash .............. and realy one must close ANY other aplications , chats , steam ,gaming programs ....´cause Sonar needs all the power of the PC .......................9 hours no crash ? nice

I run nothing on my DAW other than drivers, Sonar, and Reaper. I can go for 9 hours with no problems, then all of a sudden it will start crashing like crazy. Especially when I try to use Screensets or Quick Grouping. I'm almost guaranteed a crash when use those two functions. Especially if I lock a Screenset.

Steam is an incredible resource hog. I hate it and refuse to play games that utilize it. I understand why they started it, but it's even worse than i-Lok in comparison. I remember installing Half-Life 2. It took half a day ... then another half day to update Steam before I could play it ... then I got an error. So I went online and found a crack that let me play the game that I just spent $60 bucks for and said never again.

I use Auto-Save and have it set to save every 60 seconds. I've said it before and I'll say it again, these threads would not exist if Cakewalk would enable Auto-Save by default. Auto-Save does not over-write your project file that you are working on. It saves that project under another name that is identicle to your project name except it has the words 'Auto-Save Copy'. When you are done working on your project, then you hit Ctrl-S to save the main project. You can also set up Auto Save to save multiple versions of the Auto Save file. I would recommend you don't use the 60 second time frame though.

JohnT is absolutely right ... in this day and age of computing ... it is not unreasonable at all to expect to go 20 minutes without something happening to cause you to lose your work.

I took the plunge and installed the A patch ... man am I regretting it and I won't even go in to details because I'm just so sick and tired of dealing with it. I firmly believe there is a toxic atmosphere at Cakewalk at the present time and the product is not being looked after as it should and that's why these patches are doing more harm than good. There's been some staff changes there lately and if you've ever been in a Corporate situation like that, you'll know exactly what I'm talking about. If you haven't, well, you guys will see the response by the handful of people I was talking about before. Just keep watching the show ...

I think it's going to be a very long time before Sonar gets back to the kind of stability we had prior to the X series. And even that wasn't so great ...

I found that Sonar became infinitely more stable for me after I set up a separate user account dedicated to audio work. This second user account has no startup programs, no automatic file syncing going on and as much crap disabled as possible. I'm pretty confident about Sonar not crashing these days and in fact have narrowed it down to a couple of things I can prepare for, e.g. inserting the Cakewalk tape sim on the master bus will always crash Sonar the first time I do it, so I save right beforehand (the second time I insert it, everything's fine). 

Focusrite saffire pro. Make sure you have installed mix control 3.1. Make sure you DONT run FireWire legacy drivers in windows. Stable as a rock for me. If that doesn't work I place bets the issue is somewhere else (check my previous post). Ta

sharke

I found that Sonar became infinitely more stable for me after I set up a separate user account dedicated to audio work. This second user account has no startup programs, no automatic file syncing going on and as much crap disabled as possible. I'm pretty confident about Sonar not crashing these days and in fact have narrowed it down to a couple of things I can prepare for, e.g. inserting the Cakewalk tape sim on the master bus will always crash Sonar the first time I do it, so I save right beforehand (the second time I insert it, everything's fine).

Hi Sharke,

What is "Automatic File Syncing"?

Never heard of it.

Thanks,

Bub

Bub

sharke

I found that Sonar became infinitely more stable for me after I set up a separate user account dedicated to audio work. This second user account has no startup programs, no automatic file syncing going on and as much crap disabled as possible. I'm pretty confident about Sonar not crashing these days and in fact have narrowed it down to a couple of things I can prepare for, e.g. inserting the Cakewalk tape sim on the master bus will always crash Sonar the first time I do it, so I save right beforehand (the second time I insert it, everything's fine).

Hi Sharke,

What is "Automatic File Syncing"?

Never heard of it.

Thanks,

Bub

There are various apps you can use to automatically sync folders to the cloud. For instance, Microsoft's Live Mesh (although they are phasing this out in favor of SkyDrive) and also Google Drive. You just choose which folders on your hard drive that you'd like to keep automatically backed up, and it uploads them to the cloud whenever you make changes to them. You won't notice a hit in performance in everyday computing, but it's not something that you'd want going on in the background when you're running a DAW. 

Bub

sharke

I found that Sonar became infinitely more stable for me after I set up a separate user account dedicated to audio work. This second user account has no startup programs, no automatic file syncing going on and as much crap disabled as possible. I'm pretty confident about Sonar not crashing these days and in fact have narrowed it down to a couple of things I can prepare for, e.g. inserting the Cakewalk tape sim on the master bus will always crash Sonar the first time I do it, so I save right beforehand (the second time I insert it, everything's fine).

Hi Sharke,

What is "Automatic File Syncing"?

Never heard of it.

Thanks,

Bub

Hey Bub
 
I have no issues as I always state, but that does not make me a bad guy./ It's just the truth. I've gone thru a cheap Maudio 2496 and now to a Echo Layla3G (last 2 years or so) I only use the features I need ti use.
I don't use V vocal (i Have Melodyne) and I never even touched auto snap. Other than that I use everything.
 
I will say since I went to an Intel SSD for OS I never see a hiccup. I am big into midi and softsynths-many at one time. I have lots of plugs but all well known and no freebies.
 
Please don't group us all together. I am a retired Micrsoft Tech and I keep my stuff running smoothly.
 
I am sorry that you and others have issues, but that does not make folks like me, John and Cj and others bad guys or Fanboize.
 
Wish it worked great for all of us-but obviously it doesn't, whatever the reasons are.