I honestly can't remember ever losing any work, either. And check my sig. I do save constantly, for what it's worth. So while I have certainly witnessed crashes while playing around in X2/X2a, I haven't ever really lost anything. (Mind you, I spend most of my time in 8.x.) Just adding that it isn't baloney for some of us constant savers. Best, Ed

John T


I think X2 is currently a bit cranky. Here's my favourite current one: pressing the expand button to show ProChannel on a bus. About 50% of the time, that's a total white out, restart-the-computer crash for me.

Man , I have this upon saving a track template !
If I want to safe a track template ,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,and I used to have DOUBLE as much games ...beta steam ,and all of that running on the machine ,that Before ; had no issue with neither matrix nor Saving of track templates , ..............................so ?????????? PLS ROLAND :.......dont mess up the GOOD HONOR OF CAKEWALK ::::::why they do that ?
 
 

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stratman70

Well, you see I see the exact opposite of what you are saying.
 
The handful are the folks who claim crashes every 20 minutes. I went thru the forum more than once to investigate this. And it was the SAME 10-15% of people talking about totally unusable-completely unstable.

You didn't really just say 10-15% did you? Yeah, you did. LOL! Well, at least you didn't say 20-40%.

I said I use mostly midi. I do record 4 to 5 vocal tracks and 10-15 electric and accoustic guitars live and direct_ and a few basslines using my midi controller. So about 30 audio tracks recorded per project. 30-40 midi tracks per project (mostly drum tracks there.

Ok, I'm calling bull-poop again. A giant steaming pile of it, maybe even one giant pile from multiple members of the same heard that the entire community likes to roll around in. Now you are coming back after saying you only use midi, and adding in, "Oh yeah, well ... my projects are 60 tracks long with half of it audio." What a crock of CRAP man! And you wonder why some of us see right through you and call you out.

Not even going to respond to the rest of your post. It's all crap and you know it.

Like I said, it's good to see you. Hope all is well.

And there is a God. He's just on holiday...tweaking his DAW installation for stability ;)

LpMike75


X2 is not very stable on my system.  Waves plugins crash it often, instering softsynths crash it often, automation crashes it often and PC effects crash it often.  Hitting the space bar on large projects sometimes crashes it.

X1 was not very stable until the X1c patch.  Now X1 remains very stable and I use that for my workhorse.  X1(D) rarely crashes, but X2 crashes quite often.  ProTools rarely crashes on my system, but X2 crashes often.

After a full uninstal and reinstal I contacted tech support, who could offer me nothing more than do more uninstals and reinstals.  I am waiting for X2B also.   They eventually figured it out with X1, I have faith they will figure it out in X2.

According to some members here Mike, you are the cause of all these problems. ;)

I guess you have to be a retired Microsoft Tech to keep Sonar running properly on your system. ;)

X1C with a Quick Fix was the most stable for me. X1D was totally unusable, so I switched to another DAW. Then I got suckered in to X2, which didn't work, then X2 with the Quick Fix worked very well, then I installed the A Patch and it's brought it to it's knees again.

But it's all our fault. All incarnations of Sonar have worked perfectly flawlessly and have never caused so much as a "hiccup".

It's all our fault man.

Don't you feel like a giant tool like I do?

(Hopefully you're seeing the humor in this and not taking it seriously.)

Bub

stratman70

Well, you see I see the exact opposite of what you are saying.

The handful are the folks who claim crashes every 20 minutes. I went thru the forum more than once to investigate this. And it was the SAME 10-15% of people talking about totally unusable-completely unstable.

You didn't really just say 10-15% did you? Yeah, you did. LOL! Well, at least you didn't say 20-40%.

I said I use mostly midi. I do record 4 to 5 vocal tracks and 10-15 electric and accoustic guitars live and direct_ and a few basslines using my midi controller. So about 30 audio tracks recorded per project. 30-40 midi tracks per project (mostly drum tracks there.

Ok, I'm calling bull-poop again. A giant steaming pile of it, maybe even one giant pile from multiple members of the same heard that the entire community likes to roll around in. Now you are coming back after saying you only use midi, and adding in, "Oh yeah, well ... my projects are 60 tracks long with half of it audio." What a crock of CRAP man! And you wonder why some of us see right through you and call you out.

Not even going to respond to the rest of your post. It's all crap and you know it.

Like I said, it's good to see you. Hope all is well.

Bub, where did he say he only uses midi?
 
What he actually wrote was -- "I am big into midi and softsynths-many at one time. I have lots of plugs but all well known and no freebies". 
 
"Big into midi" doesn't translate as "exclusively midi"...
 
Man, you didn't even bother to go back and check what he said before practically calling him a liar...
 
And yeah, your "Good to see you to.  Hope all is well" signoff makes it all okay.
 
 
 

Really it doesn't matter what people mostly use , MIDI, audio, Sonar, cubase or pro tools, or dubley. Either you work towards getting your system stable piece by piece (which takes time) or assume a magic wand will cover it (or its some piece of software's fault, diagnosed by CPU mind melding, assumption or crystal ball).

CakeAlexS

Really it doesn't matter what people mostly use , MIDI, audio, Sonar, cubase or pro tools, or dubley. Either you work towards getting your system stable piece by piece (which takes time) or assume a magic wand will cover it (or its some piece of software's fault, diagnosed by CPU mind melding, assumption or crystal ball).

Excellent post Alex! You are 100% right.

I think Cakewalk should feel fortunate that people who do have problems are still willing to take the time to work with their software to try and get it running right. I'm pretty sure they'd frown upon users encouraging people to cut their losses and get out.

I could easily walk away like Stratman70 wants ... but that doesn't help anyone. Cakewalk, me, new users ... anyone.

I want it to work ... trust me, music is my only outlet. I don't drink alcohol, do any drugs (Illegal or prescribed), my 'outlet' is music.

I've been laying down some tracks while checking out the forum here since I created that User Account and adjusted the settings. I have to say, everything is much more responsive in Sonar. It really helped a lot. Thanks to you Alex and Sharke.

Bub