Mick Moreau

Like Stratman, I too have been using Sonar for a long time (Since cakewalk 2004).

Me too. I've been using Cakewalk software since Pro Audio 9.0. Can't remember how long ago that was, I'm thinking 98'ish?

Now, I will preface my statement with the fact that I DO save often just to keep from losing important stuff as I would do in ANY software program I use.

Me too. I have Sonar set to save every 60 seconds.

All of my cakewalk experience until X1, was in the Home Stduio versions.

All of mine were with Producer Editions.

I dropped the whole dime on the full X1 when it first came out.  I didnt work well with my new system and had a lot of small problems that got repaired over time with updates. I actually went backwards and bought Sonar 8 full, and Cakewalk was nice enough to provide me with the 8.5 upgrade links so that I could have all the tools.  Once upgraded, 8.5.3 worked flawlessly on my system.

IIRC 8.0 was a crash fest. 8.5.3 is still my favorite DAW of all time.

I waited thru X-1 and when it went to X2 I upgraded immediately.  With a couple of insignificant glitches (still no lost work due to saving), X2 has performed to expectations.

Now before you jump all over me, Bub I will admit to NOT being a high end Recording studio user, but I do a lot of work with Midi combined with audio using an 6 year old audiophile 2496.  I record live sometimes, but mostly in house audio and midi equalling close to 80 tracks depending upon my needs.  Also, I use a lot of effects and until I get into multiple softsynths I dont have any real problems.  Even still they are mostly user controlled error on my part.  With a some research, and using the forum, I get what I need in plenty of time.

From everything I've read those 2496 cards are rock solid. I would never jump you. Your one of the many members here that can have a rational conversation about these kind of things. There's only a handful of us that get in to these virtual slug fests from time to time. ;)

Sorry to hear that youve been having a lot of problems with it, but if moving on to something better will help you get the job done then you probably should.  The way it reads in the last 3 pages there isnt any amount of convincing you that Sonar is a good platform, but from where I sit... its the best yet (for me)

Hope you find a form of a solution that suits you.

Keep in mind ... the A patch alone fixed 250 bugs ... Seems to me you would be hard pressed not to run in to one, that's why when people come in and claim they've never lost work work in 7 seven years and see no problems it seems so unbelievable. Heck, even using Auto-Save I've lost work because of crashes in Sonar caused by VST's.

All the other DAW's I've tried work. I've been using Reaper a lot, and I've been using a lot of the VST's that come with Sonar in it. I had one crash, it was a Cakewalk VST, and Reaper reset the VST and I kept on working. When it happened in Sonar, I would get a hard crash and have to reboot. It shouldn't be that way.

Anyway, I've been tracking all day and so far so good since I created that separate user account. That looks very promising.

It's good to see you Mick. It's been a while. Hope all is well.

Bub

tricky nick

I haven't had an stability issues with X2, but I am having what I can only guess are latency issues. Any time I use Sonar's multi-band compression or Ozone 5, may playback glitches out. Strangely it works fine on average every third time I play back a track, but it's added hours of extra time and ear fatigue to my project. Any help anyone can provide is very much appreciated. - Intel Pentium I7 Quad Core 3.4Ghz - M-Audio Mobile Pre (sad I know, but could never get my Realtek High Def sound card to work properly with Sonar...probably also latency issues) - Windows 7 64 Bit

A friend of mine had one of those Mobile Pre's and had a lot of trouble with it. He always had to raise his buffers a ridiculous amount to stop the pops and clicks, and that threw his latency way off.

Are you using the A Patch? Reason I ask is, as soon as I installed it, I had to raise my sound card buffers to 512 when using the LP Multi-Band Compressor. I never could use the LP-64 EQ though. Prior to the A Patch, I had no problem cruising along at 128, and tracking live while using the LP-64 Multi-Band Compressor.

I've read in other threads about this problem that the problem sometimes does not go away after a system restore, even though it worked fine prior. Do a search for 'X2A pops and clicks'. The search feature on the forum does not work, you'll have to do it via google. Type in, without the quotation marks, "x2a patch pops and clicks site:forum.cakewalk.com".

Bub

bapu

Bub

jb101

"I've had nothing but good things to say about X2. I've repeatedly said it works great on my system."

A quote from Bub on the Sixth Of January, 2013.
 
What happened, Bub?

The troubles started when I started using it to record new projects. I was just using it to remix old projects at the time. I stated that I was just using it to remix at the time ... but maybe not on that thread, I don't remember.

So then your problems are related to recording and not mixing?

Just trying to be clear.

No, it's not isolated to recording, but the problems did start when I started recording new projects in X2. It had been working fine ... I mentioned it several times, but I also made it clear I was only mixing at the time.

Like I said, it doesn't matter.

I really don't give a **** anymore about it and I'm almost to the point of giving you all what you want ...

I don't want anything from you Bub. I was just trying to clarify which was giving you the most or more problems. It just seems to me that you are the one that reiterated that on re-mixes you experienced "good results".

Bub

stratman70

Hey Bub

Come on now-If I say something, I mean it. I ave no reason to make stuff up-Sad that you think that way.

Everybodies lying-Right. Grow up Bub, your better than that.

I an old Rocker-19 months in the jungle in Viet nam-I don't need to make up ****.  My lifes too real for that.

You are way out of line Bub-really. Sad, really sad that you see conspiracies all round you.

No personal grudge I just wish you would take a grown mans post as the truth-Ain't no reason to lie.

What the hell for-Jeeezz man. Have a little faith now and then. If I say it, I mean it and it happened-nuff said Buddy.

Hope someday you realize how often you have pretty much called me and others liars.

Lie about a piece of software-Not mad, but extremely disappointed.

What the hell does Vietnam have to do with f'ing Sonar stratman?

If you think it adds some kind of credibility to your comments, you are sadly mistaken.

I've known dozens of veterans from every war and 'police action' going back to WWI, and I can honestly tell you that not a single one of them ever played that card. All of my uncles were in WWII, and I have to say it kind of offends me when I see people pull out the 'vet' card.

Talk about being a man and growing up, take your own advice. It's just a music forum ... you're taking it a hell of a lot more seriously than I am.

Yes Bub, I was trying to get thru to you that I am a man of honor.
 
You have some nerve Bub-Which war did you defend our country in? Oh, by proxy, I see. You knew vets? You know vets-
 
I was attempting to be nice and not call you a jerk for always stating forum member who disagree with you are lying. Yes, it does add credibility. Fighting for our country is an honor and you disgrace it with your crap. Playing the card.
 
The vet card??? -it's not a card , it's for real Bub. No you cannot experience by "knowing" someone. Or playing a video game.
 
You are a disrespectful - sad - human being-a very sad human being. I'm done with you.
 
This time you have gone to far.

this thread has a little bit of everything in it,thats not a good thing.

Thanks for pointing me in the right direction, Bub. I have whatever the latest update is, which is I'm guessing "A". I'll keep trying to adjust latency to see what I can something better.

This thread could have come from any version of Sonar. I remember when Sonar 7 came out - ooh that was a turkey!
Go to Logic or Cubase forums - same sort of arguments. No DAW software is perfect. Sonar is more imperfect than most though. Glad I stuck to 8.5.3...

No problems here with X2a

Bub this may be the very last time I post on this forum responding to you.

I’ve known for a while now that you have some real problems with how you deal with other members here. I think its due to something going on with your own life. It sure is not due to what people say to you.

What has caused me to respond to you here is how you seem to view veterans. What was being said was that veterans as a group tend to hold certain things as sacred. One being honor. When service people have nothing else to motivate them when asked to go into harms way that is the only thing that allows them to do so. They do it because of honor. When the vet is put into a situation of having to kill another or be killed it is honor that has to drive them. Civilians never know what vets have had to do in their name. Nor do they understand the deprivations they suffer in order to do the bidding of the people they are defending.

You say you know vets. But judging by the dismissive remarks about them I think you only know about them. You do not know them at all. You do not know about their honor. You know nothing about what they did and what it meant to them to do it. What it cost them. What it still costs them. It never leaves them.

I can’t tell you how much your rhetoric is so offensive to vets. Nor can I tell you how vets view the sort of attitude you have. It seems those that do the least for their country have the worst attitude toward veterans. I need not say what vets think of you. That would be a violation of the TOS.

You need to rethink how you act around vets and how you interact with them. Those of us that made it back home don’t need to have our anger awakened by people that seem unworthy of the sacrifice we gave. Let us try to have faith that at least some people respect what we did and are grateful for our having done it.

Many people on this forum have gone out of their way to be thoughtful to the vets and have shown gratitude for our service. Others make no comment which is perfectly acceptable. It is those few that are unable to see the honor and the sacrifice that a vet has that is very upsetting to vets in general.

You don’t have to think good thoughts about us. You don’t have to post nice things about us. You don’t have to go out of your way to thank us. What you do have to do is be silent if you can’t do any of the above.

That is all we ask.

Here's a thread that went downhill fast. It doesn't seem to be adding much to the sum of knowledge about bugs and how they might get fixed, that's for sure. I must be weird being Bub, harbouring the bizarre conviction that there's an organised conspiracy of people lying about bugs in a moderately obscure niche software application. A year or so ago, he spent a while insisting I must be on Cakewalk's payroll. He's a lunatic.