• SONAR
  • Gotta admit I'm sick of Sonar crashing whenever I open the master ProChannel (p.3)
2013/02/10 09:52:18
chuckebaby
mike_mccue


 I don't do it even if the Cakewalk manual says that SONAR supposed to be able to do it.
great words of wisdom(not being sarcastic either)

2013/02/10 10:02:52
FCCfirstclass
No problems with GR4 since I built my new box with 32 Gb ram.
2013/02/10 10:04:10
FCCfirstclass
Hi Chuck. 

I hope you are coping with the snow this weekend.
2013/02/10 10:11:34
trimph1
This raises an interesting question for me here.

What kind of workflow would be most likely to cause these crashes and which workflow could be used to get around/avoid crashes like these?
2013/02/10 10:15:22
The Maillard Reaction
An awareness of what kicks the PDC in is a good first start.

Each user will benefit from knowing what stuff they are using that utilizes the PDC.


As I suggest... once you do that... a lot of stuff starts to make sense and you can see the cause and effect in your work flow and then adapt.


all the best,
mike
2013/02/10 10:37:00
Bub
bapu

No problems.

Anything I'm misunderstanding?
Do you have any idea how hard it is to get outmeal off a computer monitor!?

LOL!


2013/02/10 10:47:24
Bub
CakeAlexS

Works for me. Update guitar rig software and sound device drivers.
I'm sure you've done this already Sharke, but Alex is right about the Guitar Rig update.

When Guitar Rig 4 first came out, it did have some problems that were fixed with an update.

I use Guitar Rig 4 Pro extensively. I use it on Vocals, Drums, Guitar, Bass. I haven't had a crash with GR4 since the first update, and I think there were 3 after that IIRC.

I'm not doing the 'it works for me' thing, you know me way better than that. What I am saying is, I have seen problems with GR4, and I was able to fix them with an update, but that was quite some time ago.

..........................

I too have also seen problems with projects going bad after a certain age. One thing that helped was using Auto-Save, and every once in a while, opening up the Auto-Save file, then saving it as the main project name, thus overwriting the main project while not losing any work. Hope that makes sense. You have to be quick about it, if you open up the Auto-Save project, then you'll have an Auto-Save copy of an Auto-Save file, and the file names get really long and confusing. You have to do this from the very beginning of the project ... if you have an existing project and then turn on Auto-Save, you're just copying the problem, if that makes any sense.

It sounds like a pain, but it's not a big deal at all really.

Good luck!
2013/02/10 11:04:03
frankandfree
mike_mccue


Guitar Rig has lots of PDC needs... and when you switch through presets the PDC factor is changing on the fly.

Many of the emulation efx use convolution math which can take a long time to process... the better sounding stuff taps the PDC too.

SONAR gets flaky when you require it's PDC feature to actually do it's PDC thing.

It works... but it's flaky.

If you wrap your head around the fact that the PDC makes it flaky then a lot of stuff starts to make sense and you can adapt a work flow that let's you avoid most of SONAR's flaky stability.

I use a SONAR that is 99.99% stable... but I know what SONAR can't do so I don't do it even if the Cakewalk manual says that SONAR supposed to be able to do it.

While it's true that GR uses convolution a lot, it has never reported any PDC need to my host or added latency to a signal monitored through it (at least not enough so that I could sense it), no matter which or how many of the FX I use. It seems to do all its math within the host's buffers. It can easily use up my old-ish CPU, but does not need PDC ever.
2013/02/10 12:04:18
bapu
Bub


bapu

No problems.

Anything I'm misunderstanding?
Do you have any idea how hard it is to get outmeal off a computer monitor!?

LOL!



You soooo funny Bub. But you realize you took those two statements out of context, I really was trying to reproduce the problem.
2013/02/10 12:09:15
Bub
bapu
Bub
bapu

No problems.

Anything I'm misunderstanding?
Do you have any idea how hard it is to get outmeal off a computer monitor!?

LOL!


You soooo funny Bub. But you realize you took those two statements out of context, I really was trying to reproduce the problem.
Yes, I thought it was pretty obvious I did that for comedic value.

Hey, your 'o' key is stuck. Just an FYI.



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