Conar


I think the op is talking about these kind of manipulations: 
http://youtu.be/vrb6WbX9K3s

Why can't we do such basic operations in realtime with truly musical and USABLE results in  Sonar, to THIS DAY?

no con ar
your putting words in the OP's mouth and speaking for him.
do you also know Logic only runs on PC?

If you want real-time flexibility then you are already using the best- Ableton Live. 

FYI: Groove quantizing, while it is destructive, can match the groove of any existing track, not just a predefined template, by first extracting the groove (from midi or audiosnap) and then applying it -- with various strength applied to timing, velocity, and note length. There's also an audition feature.

bvideo


FYI: Groove quantizing, while it is destructive, can match the groove of any existing track, not just a predefined template, by first extracting the groove (from midi or audiosnap) and then applying it -- with various strength applied to timing, velocity, and note length. There's also an audition feature.

Yes that's what I was trying to say by it being the closest thing in Sonar to Reason's regroove, it just lacks the realtime flexibility Regroove has but does a very similar job nonetheless.
 
John had already covered the ground in his first post I can't see any worthwhile purpose for why he got challenged for it further down the line, he already grasped it and had conveyed the gist of it perfectly well.

So it's basically the issue of 'live' requantization, and if extended to audio, live time stretch  acid/rex...

The ground I saw covered initially was "looping", which is a different thing called "groove clip" in Sonar. The OP was talking about groove quantizing, c.f. matching timing & emphasis qualities ("feel") between a source and target clip. Two different things are called "groove" in Sonar. The part that I wished to emphasize was the fact that one is not limited to Sonar's built-in "groove" templates of timing & emphasis.

I have no idea what its about anymore. 

John


I have no idea what its about anymore. 

Nor me...

 lourdo , have you tried the trial of x2 ? I think that's the best solution... 


remember though if you are using a 64 bit reason (which the new version installs by default) , you have to use 64 bit sonar. You can also install the 32 bit version of reason as well though.


as well as the bouncing side to mix.. well there are synths that will never appear in reason that I use a fair bit.. u-he diva and d16's lush to name 2... folk like eXode and Lizard etc have done some excellent reason synths... but some vst's I like still.  you can work a number of ways with rewire.. regardless of what DAW it's hooked up to.

the MPC swing grooves you can use pretty much in any DAW also, as long as it supports using them as a template.. as they are just midi files.

Sell Reason (as long as you have no Rack extensions which the Swedish Mafia won't let you sell) and get Max for live. It is 1000 times more powerful than Reason.

For someone who wants a powerful DAW with fluid realtime tweakibility it is the only real choice.