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2013/02/09 01:27:14
icontakt
Bub


Jlien X

I tried using Step Sequencer in X1, but after all you have to change the Step Sequencer clip into a regular MIDI clip to randomize/humanize the events, right?
You can do it in the Step Sequencer, but it has to be done for each individual note. It works better when you're working with drums. Click on the little play button icon to the left of a note (or drum), and it brings up a bunch of options.

Oh, really? Thanks. Then I think I'll give it another chance (this time seriously )
2013/02/09 02:21:44
FastBikerBoy
Yeah another Step Sequencer fan here esp for drums.

Amongst others the probability setting (Where Bub has already mentioned optinos) are great on some things,  like really intricate hi-hat patterns. Use that on a low  setting and sometimes a hit will play other times it won't, adds a real "human" feel to clips when they are rolled out.

I usually start all my drum patterns in the SS and then may do a little fine tuning in the PRV when I've bounced down the complete track but 90%+ of it is done in the SS
2013/02/09 13:04:40
RT1
I probably am not giving enough information about my problem.  Don't like being toooo wordy, but here goes:

I create a  SD3 pattern in SS.  It shows up in track view in the MIDI track.  It works perfectly.  I can scroll it out for several bars and all is well.  I then start to work on a fill pattern so I can add that part.  However, any edits I make in the SS pattern are reflected in the first pattern.  I have searched and searched to find a solution.  When I use the menus, I found "unlink SS pattersn" command.  However, mine is grayed out.

I actually have the X1 user manual, some 1800 PDF pages.  I cannot find a solution.

Thanks for any help guys!
2013/02/09 14:18:12
Bub
RT1

I then start to work on a fill pattern so I can add that part.  However, any edits I make in the SS pattern are reflected in the first pattern.
When you are done with your first pattern that you stretched out, you have two options.

1. You can right click and select 'Bounce to clip'. Doing this makes it so the clip becomes a normal midi clip and is not associated with Step Sequencer any more. You will have to edit it in Piano Roll View (PRV) or, right click on it again and convert it back to a Step Sequencer clip.

2. You can right click and select 'Unlink Step Sequencer Clips'. Doing this makes it so you can still edit it with the Step Sequencer, but it will not effect other Step Sequencer clips you have on the track. [This is probably the one you want.] This option allows you to have multiple Step Sequencer clips on the same midi track without the Step Sequencer editing all of them at the same time like you are experiencing.

2013/02/09 19:50:23
RT1
Thanks Bub, I believe it is starting to make sense now.
2013/02/09 20:00:29
John
Bub, I'm impressed. Well done.  Now doesn't that feel great?
2013/02/09 20:25:07
Bub
John

Bub, I'm impressed. Well done.  Now doesn't that feel great?
Thanks John.

I'm taking baby steps, but I'm getting there.
2013/02/09 20:52:03
chuckebaby
i agree,i just learned a few thing i didnt know.
i do most of my editing and creating all in PRV.
i used to use the SS and then fine tune like FBB was saying.
i only abandoned it because i became better using the PRV.
but after reading this it seems for intriquete hit hat parts and velocity changes the SS is the way to go and i think i will re-visit.
 
even though i hand crack most of my beats to memory in the sr-16,velocity still hangs heavey and cant be done effectively as it could using the SS.
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