sharke

I totally agree, my point was that the kind of people who think we should boycott such companies, remained largely silent when the same focus was put on Apple. 

If I exclude the professional environment and focus on people, it does indeed strike me that there are some major inconsistencies in the moral stances of some of my fellows when it comes to their computer. At first sight, at least.

I think, partially, we might compare that to the people who don't like or even hate Microsoft but put up w/ Windows. They need a computer and an OS, and that's what works for them, what their peers use, etc. 

Though the gap is closing - thanks to Microsoft following in the footsteps of Apple - for many Mac users, working w/ a Windows machine is as attractive a solution as switching to Linux for your average PC user or even coding their own OS.

Simply put, a PC doesn't meet their need. That doesn't mean that they agree w/ Apple policies.

goes to show how different personal experiences are. My experience was vastly different. Every time I was subject to groups of them i got the opposite. mostly loonies. I concede it could be an anomaly, but i do know the media had nothing to do with my own personal experience.

WDI : "Hope apple brings some of thier sweat shops to US so we can have some jobs. I read some where that the me Mac pros were supposed to be assembled in the US."

Makes sense now that the American worker has been hammered into the ground. Why assume the hassle of driving slaves overseas when you can do it at home ?

Paul P


WDI : "Hope apple brings some of thier sweat shops to US so we can have some jobs. I read some where that the me Mac pros were supposed to be assembled in the US."

Makes sense now that the American worker has been hammered into the ground. Why assume the hassle of driving slaves overseas when you can do it at home ?

Ya, they can save money on shipping and still charge the same. Lol.


Actually they probably would have to ship all the parts anyways. 

sharke

SuperG

dubdisciple


political labels are funny. Most people I know pick the label they think sounds good, but typically violate the ever shifting core tenants of said position all the time. My ultra liberal tree hugging friend had no trouble finding an exception to her opposition to the death penalty for a particular child murderer. My former Glen Beck loving, tea partying boss is suddenly warming to aspects of Obamacare after receiving a huge medical bill. The massive levels of hypocrisy it takes to attempt 100% adherence to most ideologies is most likely to lead to eventual cognitive dissonance.

Methinks the right is seriously reconsidering the TP, I mean, sure they're reliable, but everybody else finds them distasteful, regular conservatives included. Obama's is policy-wise somewhere to the right of Reagan, and what to do? Be oppositional for opposition's sake? That won't work... 2016 is going to be hella interesting for both parties!

I don't find the TP "distasteful" at all. In fact in many respects they were very similar to Occupy Wall St, only without the Marxist BS, fighting with police, smelly shanty towns, rapes, murders etc. Of course the media did their best to portray them all as racist Christians who want to throw poor people onto a large bonfire etc. 

Hmm - little over the top. I don't recall comments about smelly shanty towns, but then if only Occupy folks were staying there, who cares? Marxist? Not even. Their beef is about double standards - the lack of prosecutorial zeal, the wrist slaps in cases where the powerful and big business have committed crimes, whereas you, me, and Joe Sixpack can get the slammer for forgetting to pay a parking ticket.


I don't know about TP being openly racist, but sure enough their chosen candidates were *openly* bigoted - and they got hammered but good for it in the general election.. I know a few TPers and they've more than admitted their scorn for the disadvantaged. That, and a quite a fair number of self-identified 'Christians' (who don't normally identify their denominations to save them from embarrassment) are bigoted and/or racists. That's not painting a picture...

WDI

Really can't use soundcloud etc as an example of mp3. Like the stuff in my link in specs sounds nothing like what was actually uploaded. My own mp3s sound like the wave version. These were uploaded a long time ago and I think they do a better job now in the conversion.  


Mp3 has its place just like any medium. I still buy records because I like the sound but we all know the short coming of records. Cassettes had hiss and Dolby killed the highs but were recordable. Etc. I think you would find it difficult to tell the difference between a 192 kHz mp3 and a 44.1 kHz wave. I do think I can tell but I really have to listen very very closely and some of this is possibly placebo. But the convenience of having my entire music library on a hand held device totally out ways any difference I think maybe I might hear. For me any ways. 


But since I know mp3 is a lossy format I still like to buy the cd. But then convert it. 

Fair enough,I came into this digital thing so late,there is definitely a LOT,I don't really know about yet,and yes,Iv'e yet to hear a 192KHz anything,let alone an MP3,at that resolution,so at least I'm learning something new everyday[I have left!]
Bob

John T


You know, you couldn't have a better illustration of the jerkoff attitude that underlies this stuff than fwrend's stuff above suggesting everyone else in the store apart from him is a "kool aid drinker". Funny how he's in the same store with same products, but he's somehow smarter than everyone else. I'll tell you what runs it a close second though, and that's Sharke's claim to know for a fact that people en masse are indulging in some kind of political hypocrisy over Apple. Jaysus. Get over yourselves, chaps.

Wow! So much for my fly-by testimony.  Just for the record, I'm in no way suggesting boycotts or the like (sorry, didn't read the whole thread and all the subsequent sub threads).  Simply sharing my frustrations with proprietary systems and my right to choose which I use and which I don't hence keeping the iPad but changing phones - that's all.


Koolaid was just tongue-in-cheek but my apologies for not adding the smiley thingy - I was in a hurry. But I do hear too often around here "Apple or nothing!"  Does that make me smarter? No, but I'm smart enough to know there just as good options.  I'm officially over myself :-)))))

What I find funny is when a die hard Apple user try's to show you the latest cool thing their iGizmo can do,, and then you whip out your Android phone and show them the same app. 

Does this happen to you? Do you actually hang out with your friends comparing phone features? The long winter evenings must fly by.

@SuperG I was not talking about the publicized incidents. I was referring 100% to in person encounters. i have know way of knowing if my experience was typical nationwide and would to claim so. The circle of TP members I was regularly exposed to seemed to lean towards racism and other forms of fanaticism. In their defense, I don't think they had any clue they were racist, even when the members who did not participate in such things pointed out how their actions could be regarded as such. Anyways, I think I am going to abandon this thread because it is very off topic at this point and I apologize for that.