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2013/02/08 18:00:14
isingit
guitardood



One little glitch now (I'm sure there will be more) is sometimes I am processing a clip and then click a different tab in the process (happened using Wave Hammer) or perhaps after saving the file, and a "Windows Help and Support" window will open up explaining why Windows Help is unavailable for this program. It is an annoyance to have to close it out before moving on. Apparently I need to install WinHlp32.exe . I'm reticent to do that as it may cause even more problems.  If it gets too annoying I will try it. 


If the manual is in *.CHM format, there are a few programs out that can display CHM files and even a few that can convert it to PDF format if you wish.  I"ve got SF9, so sorry I don't remember the format for 7's help file.




Best,
guitardood

Actually the Help in SF7 is working fine. I also have the paper manual. The "Windows Help and Support" box is popping up when I'm not even trying to seek help, that's the strange thing. In "Wave Hammer" I'm just switching from "Compressor" tab to the "Volume Maximizer" tab and this Windows Help box will open. This only seems to happen when I use "Wave Hammer" or "Acoustic Mirror" so far. Oddly it does not affect the only other Effect/Process in SF7 with tabs, namely "Dynamics"/Multi-band effect. This has tabs but the Windows Help does NOT popup! It's odd. 
2013/02/08 18:03:18
Bub
guitardood

When I listen to an album like McCartney and think about what was accomplished with a four-track, I get very depressed looking at all the gear I've got and not putting out a single track.  Shame!
IIRC, didn't he do the entire album, all instruments and vocals, by himself in his living room?

It is amazing.
2013/02/08 18:18:47
isingit
Bub


guitardood

When I listen to an album like McCartney and think about what was accomplished with a four-track, I get very depressed looking at all the gear I've got and not putting out a single track.  Shame!
IIRC, didn't he do the entire album, all instruments and vocals, by himself in his living room?

It is amazing.

Yes, and for that matter almost all the Beatles records were done with little more (or less) than a Studer 4 track 1 inch machine at the EMI/Abby Road studios! There's a little interview with Geoff Emerick in the latest Musicians Friend catalog. In it he tells the story of a project he's done remaking Sgt. Pepper with new artists BUT doing it with the original equipment and the old school way as well. At least one of the new acts had such a hard time realizing that they had to get it right, by doing it right in the first place, and not getting it all fixed-in-the-mix by Pro Tools. I'm gonna see if I can find the film that was referenced in the article. It could be eye opening. 


Meanwhile, let me grab this keyboard over there and some MIDI cables and....................................
2013/02/08 18:21:43
dubdisciple
The Alesis keyboard should work just fine. I have a qs6.1 which is virtually identical in most specs.
2013/02/08 19:54:44
stratman70
@OP
 
Now that you have it working you would be doing yourself a favor if you "export" the registry key for Sound Forge in the tools menu and save it.
 
Then you can always just double click on it to enter into the registry (should you reinstall, etc, etc.
 
Depending if you change versions of SF and \or Sonar you may have to edit it after that-but that's much easier and quicker than adding it from scratch.
2013/02/09 03:33:42
mudgel
isingit


AHHHHHhhhhhhhh.....! Bub and others, your posts made me recheck my registry.
I looked again at the values I had set in the registry. I made one tiny little mistake. In the "Type" path I had inserted "Wave Editor" instead of "WaveEditor" (no space between Wave and Editor.. and of course no italics either).  I fixed that.
I just selected a whole audio track in Sonar and then when I clicked Sound Forge, it opened and had the clip in the window and I altered the clip, saved it and it DID save it in Sonar. The message box appeared in Sonar that said in my case "Take 3\8 has changed. Would you like to replace it?" It did replace the processed clip correctly .......................  
Now that's more like it!


Unless there is a future gotcha glitch it seems Sonar X2 64bit CAN use Sound Forge 7.0 within the program as a Utility and it's wave editor! 

I had read that SF 7.0 would not work on Windows 7 but I had to try anyway.
There's so little current info on SF 7.0 anyway most Google searches only result in "download this crack" or reference SF 10 Pro, which is less than helpful.

One little glitch now (I'm sure there will be more) is sometimes I am processing a clip and then click a different tab in the process (happened using Wave Hammer) or perhaps after saving the file, and a "Windows Help and Support" window will open up explaining why Windows Help is unavailable for this program. It is an annoyance to have to close it out before moving on. Apparently I need to install WinHlp32.exe . I'm reticent to do that as it may cause even more problems.  If it gets too annoying I will try it. 

I'm liking this Cakewalk forum. Lots of good people willing to toss you some help.

I hope others with this problem can benefit from this. 

Installing the winhlp32.exe file wont' cause a problem. It works fine. there's no reason it should cause any problems. It's simply the executable file that's called when you want to open the older style Help files.
2013/02/09 03:39:29
mudgel
As far as having to attend to all the geeky non music type stuff like computer maintenance, upgrades, updates etc. It's the price you have for the power you now have at your finger tips without having to call or hire a pro studio and a producer engineer to make it all happen for you. In the pre computer days, the was regular maintenance on equipment as well; it was usually of a mechanical nature but regular, tedious, frustrating and time consuming too.

However reluctantly, it's a price I happily pay for the power I now have to do the things I want. Never want to go back
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