FastBikerBoy

SilverfoxUK


Ok, I have now set up my BCF2000 MC .ini how I like it. First band controls all on one bank etc. 

just wondering 1 thing. IS it possible to have a blank vpot? for example 

VPOT1=0, BLAH BLAH
VPOT2=1, BLAH BLAH
VPOT3= **BLANK*
ETC.

Thing is, when I leave one blank so I can have a gap in the controls, it seems fine going up through the banks (in edit mode) but it seems to lose the last vpot control and then going back down the banks it shifts everything else back one place. 

Is it just a case that there are 27 parameters, and the mackieControl HAS to have the first 27 controls set as one for one. 

Hope that makes sense? 

Short answer is I don't know.

My best guess though would be no. I think if you don't assign a parameter to a V-pot then it will automatically be assigned to one, whether you like it or not.

The reason I think that is if there is no assignment for a particular plugin in the ini file then the default behaviour is to assign the V-pots in the order in which the parameters are presented by Sonar.

I guess there's no harm in trying and see what happens.

You are right (no surprise there ;)


 Changing a vpot to blank or commenting it out only leads to problems. 


At first it seems ok, a blank vpot is there, however when you start 'Banking' across in edit mode on the BCF, you find that there is one parameter missing from the end bank (like blanking one out in the MackieControl.ini moves it along one vpot) and when banking back, ithe blank one is gone and it has just squashed up the parameters and deleted the blank vpot. quite strange. 


 I guess as you said, if you leave a blank, it is trying to assign it as it comes by default. 


Shame, because I want my banks to be nice and clean with each band on a bank. i.e. 


Vpots 0 - 7


Enable , Gloss , LF on/off , Q, Gain

Vpots 8 - 15

LMF on/off , Q, Gain

Vpots 16 - 

 HMF.....

you get the idea. I can live with it though. 

At least I have got all the bands controls for PC on one bank now, so I can actually use all the controls at once. Much nicer than using mouse!

 Maybe it will be useful for other BCF-ers. I'll post it up over the weekend.  

I have a Mackie C4 so I changed the vpots order around a bit to make it more correspondant to the PC EQ

But have to chnage the numVPots= to not have any pots missing.

My example setup is.

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
;For Pro Channel EQ
[Track Eq]
PluginType=1
NumVPots=32
----------------------------------------------
VPot0=5,freq,0.24   ; LF Freq
VPot1=10,freq,0.40   ; LMF Freq
VPot2=14,freq,0.65   ; HMF Freq
VPot3=18,freq,0.84   ; HF Freq
VPot4
VPot5
VPot6=1,pan, 0.5, 0.5   ; EQ Type Pure/Vintage/Modern
VPot7=0,switch    ; EQ Enable
VPot8=6,spread,0.2  ; LF Q
VPot9=11,spread,0.2  ; LMF Q
VPot10=15,spread,0.2  ; HMF Q
VPot11=19,spread,0.2  ; HF Q
VPot12=3,switch    ; LF On/Off
VPot13=8,switch    ; LMF On/Off
VPot14=12,switch    ; HMF On/Off
VPot15=16,switch    ; HF On/Off
VPot16=4,boost/cut,0.5  ; LF Level
VPot17=9,boost/cut,0.5  ; LMF Level
VPot18=13,boost/cut,0.5  ; HMF Level
VPot19=17,boost/cut,0.5  ; HF Level
VPot20
VPot21=7,switch   ; LF Shelf/Peak
VPot22
VPot23=20,switch    ; HF Shelf/Peak
VPot24=25,freq,0.24   ; HPF Freq
VPot25=26,spread,0.143,0.142855    ; HPF Slope
VPot26=23,spread,0.143,0.142855    ; LPF Slope
VPot27 =22,freq,0.84   ; LPF Freq 
VPot28
VPot29=24,switch   ; HPF On/Off
VPot30=2,switch    ; Gloss On/Off
VPot31=21,switch   ; LPF On/Off
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
 M2VPot0=6,spread,0.2 ; LF Q
 M2VPot1=11,spread,0.2 ; LMF Q
 M2VPot2=15,spread,0.2 ; HMF Q  
 M2VPot3=19,spread,0.2 ; HF Q
 M2VPot4=26,spread,0.143,0.142855   ; HPF Slope
 M2VPot5=23,spread,0.143,0.142855   ; LPF Slope
 
 M3VPot0=4,boost/cut,0.5 ; LF Gain
 M3VPot1=9,boost/cut,0.5 ; LMF Gain
 M3VPot2=13,boost/cut,0.5 ; HMF Gain
 M3VPot3=17,boost/cut,0.5 ; HF Gain
 
 M4VPot0=3,switch ; LF On/Off
 M4VPot1=8,switch ; LMF On/Off
 M4VPot2=12,switch ; HMF On/Off
 M4VPot3=16,switch ; HF On/Off
 M4VPot4=24,switch ; HPF On/Off
 m4VPot5=21,switch ; LPF On/Off
 M4VPot6=0,switch ; EQ Enable
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
NumFreqBands=4
Gain0=4,boost/cut,0.5 ; LF Gain
Gain1=9,boost/cut,0.5 ; LMF Gain
Gain2=13,boost/cut,0.5 ; HMF Gain
Gain3=17,boost/cut,0.5 ; HF Gain
CourseFreq0=5,freq,0.24 ; LF Freq
CourseFreq1=10,freq,0.40 ; LMF Freq
CourseFreq2=14,freq,0.65 ; HMF Freq
CourseFreq3=18,freq,0.84 ; HF Freq
Q0=6,spread,0.2 ; LF Q
Q1=11,spread,0.2 ; LMF Q
Q2=15,spread,0.2 ; HMF Q
Q3=19,spread,0.2 ; HF Q
BandEnable0=3,switch ; LF On/Off
BandEnable1=8,switch ; LMF On/Off
BandEnable2=12,switch ; HMF On/Off
BandEnable3=16,switch ; HF On/Off
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Works really nicely on the C4

Wow, so you are saying that you can have blanks if you increase the amount of vpots?

 pretty sure i checked this already, maybe doesnt work on the BCF?

will give it another go!

Well well well Freex, 

 nice one. It only bloody works. Not sure what I was doing wrong before, I'm sure I tried increasing the VPOT= amount to allow for the extra blanks. 

 Anyway, now it is as I want it. 


 Nice one pal. 

 Now... Expanded or not expanded... that is the question

Hey that's good to know, thanks Freex, I may find a use for that.

BTW I've also updated the other MCU thread with details of my MCU "bug" report.

Good stuff FBB, hopefully one day we will have access to all the PC controls. 

 I just wonder how many Sonar users actually use the MackieControl...? cant be that many

I've just updated the first post in this thread to reflect all the changes I've made up to now.

I'm guessing several of you may already have fine tuned it to the way you like but if you haven't and you're as OCD about the Mackie as I seem to be, then the first post explains what to do......

Anyway.. the 'highlights' are.......

1. Pressing the EQ button for the third time now activates 6 bands, although only 4 respond to gain. The other two are the HPF & LPF control freq on the V-Pot, slope (M2 + VPot), on/off (M4 + VPot).

2. In single track mode M2 + VPot, Q or slope depending on control. M4 + Vpot all on/offs for parameters

3. The freq settings when pressing a V-Pot now default to the following.  LF = 48, LMF = 280, HMF = 1.60k, HF = 8.40k, HPF = 40 & LPF = 16 k. That puts them all in the centre of their respective graph areas (I said I was OCD about it).

I also fixed a couple of faults with my original where the slope controls on the buss compressor weren't behaving quite right.

Hope someone finds this useful and if I can appeal to any other MCU protocol users to put in a bug report for the various parts of the MCU that no longer work. A list of which ready to cut & paste can be found HERE.

Thanks

FBB that is a tremendous piece of work. Would any of this apply to using AC-7 on an iPad?  I know the first answer might be "try it"  but I am not near where that can happen just now.

Only if it uses the mackie protocol. Obviously the MCU + MCU pro do and the BCF 2000 can. I'm sure other surfaces use it but I don't know specifics. Sorry.

Hello all,
First post here on this fine board. I see many people are working on getting BCF and BCR working optimally with Sonar.

I´m having some trouble getting my BCF2000 (in Mackie Sonar mode) working properly with X1c/Producer/Expanded (64bit). 
I previously used Sonar 8.5.3 (also 64bit) and I edited the mackiecontrol.ini file as explained here and on several other pages on the net. I made a few adjuistments to the EQ layout so that when you put the BCF in "EQ Fader mode" (3 presses on the Eq mode button) the layout is:
rotary 1: freq band 1
rotary 2: band 1 on/off
fader 1: gain
fader 2: q

Repeat for bands 2,3,4. This really worked great!

Now that I upgraded to X1c/exp these controls still work with a project previously saved in 8.5.3 (because internally it uses the old EQ's) but the proChannel eq's are mapped randomly. Fome faders just control a push button, and only the first band seems to have any mapping.

Of course I found this post and started editting my mackiecontrol.ini ... but ... nothing changed. The mappings are just as silly as they have been and seem to have not changed at all. After a little scanning on my system I found another mackiecontrol.ini, this time not in a c:\program files subdirectory, but somewhere in my user directory. So I started editing that one as well, still no results.

Does anyone have any tips on how to proceed? My ini file seems to not have been overwritten since upgrade and the dll seems to be very old as well.

Any thoughts would greatly be appreciated.

And a second question while I´m at it.... I´ve never gotten around to getting bcfview working on my win7 system. I've switched from standard windows usb drivers to behringer drivers, still nothing. I anyone has some tips, again: greatly appreciated.

Arian Prins.