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  • MCU (or other Mackie mode users) - There's good news & bad news. Updated 3/11/11 (p.6)
2011/12/30 04:43:33
FastBikerBoy
To assign parameters to the faders/pots etc you need to look at the mappings, much as you have done before, they just need changing to suit the way the PC EQ parameters are presented to the surface.

For example the line

VPot0=5,freq,0.1267            ; LF Freq

just tells the Mackie that I want the first vpot to control the 5th parameter which in the case of the PC EQ is the Low Frequency band frequency.

Whatever changes you have made to your ini.file in the section that controls the "EQ Fader Mode" need adjusting to how you want the controls assigned. You can work out the parameter positions from the first post or alternatively comment out or delete the whole section and then when you switch to EQ mode you can see the actual default presentation order as the mackie sees them, start counting from 0 and work left to right.

I'm not in my studio ATM so can't check my ini file but when I get back in a few hours I'll have a quick look and post any more relevant info.

BCFView needs to be started before Sonar and you need to right click on GUI and assign the correct BCF MIDI port.
2011/12/30 04:50:17
FastBikerBoy
Just another thought, make sure the line [track eq] just above the sonitus assignments is commented out or the mackie/bcf will assume sonitus is your default track eq.

2011/12/30 05:09:19
prinsarian
FastBikerBoy


Just another thought, make sure the line [track eq] just above the sonitus assignments is commented out or the mackie/bcf will assume sonitus is your default track eq.

Hi FBB,
Huh? The header look exactly the same for sonitus and for prochannel: [Track Eq]... If I quote your ini from the first page:
 
; For Sonitus EQ
;[Track Eq]
;PluginType=1
;NumVPots=21
;VPot0=4,freq,0.24  
...
;For Pro Channel EQ
[Track Eq]
PluginType=1
NumVPots=27
VPot0=5,freq,0.1267            ; LF Freq
 
So how can mackie/bcf distinguish between one and the other? I think I'll take your advise and remove all content from the Track Eq and then see what happens. Then I'll also know for shure which version of the mackiecontrol.ini file is actually loaded.
 
About bcfview... I do start it before sonar and right-click and select the bcf midi port. Still only a blue screen.
 
Thanks for the tips.
Arian.
2011/12/30 06:04:55
FastBikerBoy
They are identical except the Sonitus one is commented out. That's what the ";" does. The line is effectively ignored.

Are you starting the BCF before BCF View? I can't remember the correct sequence now but one needs to be started before the other, that will make a difference. Also make sure you have the correct BCF port assigned, you should see 3 BCF ports IIRC but can't remember which one it is now. Sorry, it's been a while since I used a BCF in mackie mode.

Hopefully a current user will jump in with more up-to-date factual info, rather than my poor hazy memory.
2011/12/30 15:53:20
prinsarian
 Hello all,
FastBikerBoy, thanks again. I've got it figured out.
There were a few problems working together to give me a hard time. 
1. BCFView didn't work. Don't know why, but re-downloading got it working. Now that I wasn't blind anymore I could at least see what I was doing. 
2. It seems to be that win7 somehow protects files in the program files folder. So if you edit something like mackiecontrol.ini it first copies the file to a location such as C:\Users\arian\AppData\Local\VirtualStore\Program Files\Cakewalk\Shared Surfaces\ and in reality you'll be editting that file. I think that was what caused me to not see any changes I made. Running my text editor as admin did the trick. 
3. I wanted to change a few things in your example, but I edited the wrong section. Wasn't able to figure that out until 1 & 2 were solved. I figured out what I wanted to change by adding your ini example part by part. I have now found out that the faders in EQ-Fader mode are defined by the GainX statements and the rotaries in that mode are defined by CourseFreqX.
Is there any documentation on all the possible configuration options in mackiecontrol.ini. I know about this site (www.chrisboucher.com/cakewalk/mackiecontrol) but it is fairly limited in the options it details. 
I'll post my EQ parts of the mackiecontrol.ini:  Feel free to comment on anything that seems illogical, although the BCF2000 is now again doing exactly what I want it to do.  Arian.
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[Bus Eq]
PluginType=1
NumVPots=8
; E1. Mode:
VPot0=5,freq,0.1267               ; LF Freq
VPot2=10,freq,0.38205               ; LMF Freq
VPot4=14,freq,0.634               ; HMF Freq
VPot6=18,freq,0.8745               ; HF Freq
VPot1=6,spread,0.5               ; LF Q
VPot3=11,spread,0.5               ; LMF Q
VPot5=15,spread,0.5               ; HMF Q
VPot7=19,spread,0.5               ; HF Q
 
; These are the faders in faderEQ mode:
NumFreqBands=8
Gain0=4,boost/cut,0.5               ; LF Gain
Gain1=9,boost/cut,0.5               ; LMF Gain
Gain2=13,boost/cut,0.5               ; HMF Gain
Gain3=17,boost/cut,0.5               ; HF Gain
Gain4=25,freq,0.1005            ; HPF Freq
Gain5=26,spread,0.143,0.142855          ; HPF Slope
Gain6=23,spread,0.143,0.142855          ; LPF Slope
Gain7=22,freq,0.9677            ; LPF Freq
; These are the rotaries in faderEQ mode:
CourseFreq0=5,freq,0.1267              ; LF Freq
CourseFreq2=10,freq,0.38205              ; LMF Freq
CourseFreq4=14,freq,0.634              ; HMF Freq
CourseFreq6=18,freq,0.8745              ; HF Freq
CourseFreq1=6,spread,0.5              ; LF Q
CourseFreq3=11,spread,0.5              ; LMF Q
CourseFreq5=15,spread,0.5              ; HMF Q
CourseFreq7=19,spread,0.5              ; HF Q
[Track Eq]
PluginType=1
NumVPots=8
; E1. Mode:
VPot0=5,freq,0.1267               ; LF Freq
VPot2=10,freq,0.38205               ; LMF Freq
VPot4=14,freq,0.634               ; HMF Freq
VPot6=18,freq,0.8745               ; HF Freq
VPot1=6,spread,0.5               ; LF Q
VPot3=11,spread,0.5               ; LMF Q
VPot5=15,spread,0.5               ; HMF Q
VPot7=19,spread,0.5               ; HF Q
 
; These are the faders in faderEQ mode:
NumFreqBands=8
Gain0=4,boost/cut,0.5               ; LF Gain
Gain1=9,boost/cut,0.5               ; LMF Gain
Gain2=13,boost/cut,0.5               ; HMF Gain
Gain3=17,boost/cut,0.5               ; HF Gain
Gain4=25,freq,0.1005            ; HPF Freq
Gain5=26,spread,0.143,0.142855          ; HPF Slope
Gain6=23,spread,0.143,0.142855          ; LPF Slope
Gain7=22,freq,0.9677            ; LPF Freq
; These are the rotaries in faderEQ mode:
CourseFreq0=5,freq,0.1267              ; LF Freq
CourseFreq2=10,freq,0.38205              ; LMF Freq
CourseFreq4=14,freq,0.634              ; HMF Freq
CourseFreq6=18,freq,0.8745              ; HF Freq
CourseFreq1=6,spread,0.5              ; LF Q
CourseFreq3=11,spread,0.5              ; LMF Q
CourseFreq5=15,spread,0.5              ; HMF Q
CourseFreq7=19,spread,0.5              ; HF Q
2011/12/30 16:04:50
FastBikerBoy
Glad you've got it sorted.

Other than the site you've linked info on the ini file seems pretty limited. CW have mentioned elsewhere that updating support for the various control surfaces including the Mackie is on the agenda, so that's good news.

Nothing illogical about any setup that works for you.

I guess by the lack of paragraphs that you are using the latest version of firefox. You might want to try an earlier version such as V5 or earlier or Google Chrome works as well.
2012/11/09 17:13:28
Kman88
AAAHHH! I was going nuts trying to get this to work in X2!! Then I tried it in X1 and it works perfectly. But nothing in X2. The PC Compressor values can be changed, but not the EQ. Is there any way to get the PC EQ working with X2? Thanks, Kevin Have MCU + XT + C4 ps. thanks so much for all your posts and your insight into MackieControl.ini
2012/11/10 01:54:14
FastBikerBoy
Is there any way to get the PC EQ working with X2?

There is, but don't get excited because it's not very practical. It will work if the EQ is the first module in the PC chain which means having the EQ pre compressor or the PC post effects bin and putting a compressor in there. Either solutions are no good for me.

If you haven't already please consider putting in a feature request and/or bug report. This list has changed slightly since the introduction of X1d/X2 (esp. # 3) but most of it is still relevant.

http://forum.cakewalk.com/fb.ashx?m=2403961

2012/11/10 03:25:49
Rob[at]Sound-Rehab
Hi guys!

Please do us a favour and put in problem reports on anything that doesn't work with the MCU because over in the VS-700 forum we are discussing identical problems (mainly ProChannel not controllable from control surface).

It looks like Cake hasn't had much time to work on that in the past year (which is OK as they came out with a very stable and cool version of X2), but now it's time we remind them again that there are people out there who don't just play around with the mouse, but have invested $$$ in one or several control surfaces and get no support for the latest and greatest Sonar advancements (the PC!).

Cheers.

2012/11/10 03:44:33
FastBikerBoy
I second that.... mine have been in since it all started going wrong at the release of X1. The PC is great and I use it almost exclusively but I'd love to have full control over the track effects in the same way as I could in 8.5.

I'm working round it by using my BCF as an ACT controller but the MCU would be better.
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