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  • The verdict: X2a is not good. Unstable and buggy as all heck (p.13)
2013/02/06 18:29:30
guitardood
webbs hill studio



a 2005 study by someone who I never even heard of
guitardood


i hope you are kidding-if you have never heard of Mutt Lange then you must be living in an audio bubble of your own.


do yourself a favour and check out his discography before you discredit his work and whilst it is 2013 a wav is still a wav and it`s how you make them that makes these forums go round.
cheers
I just checked out his discography.  Very impressive.  I've enjoyed many tracks he produced especially the Shania stuff.  Sorry to say I only heard of him today.

For the record, I said nothing to either credit or discredit Mr. Lange.  As I said, I never heard of him until today.  Heard music he produced?  YES, and enjoyed it.  Him?  Nope.


Still, with all due respect, the testing that was done in 2005 doesn't have much relevance to me, unless I were still using the versions used to test.  As I've made clear, throughout this mess, Sonar "X Series".  I even posted the stuff I did with Sonar 7 when it did not have this problem.




Best,
guitardood

2013/02/06 18:33:45
guitardood
Mooch4056


webbs hill studio



a 2005 study by someone who I never even heard of
guitardood


i hope you are kidding-if you have never heard of Mutt Lange then you must be living in an audio bubble of your own.


do yourself a favour and check out his discography before you discredit his work and whilst it is 2013 a wav is still a wav and it`s how you make them that makes these forums go round.
cheers

Oh the work I quoted was tongue in cheek made up study and ridiculous  ... But I thought that was obvious .. 


The part of not knowing who Mutt Lange..... Is like claiming you're a hall of fame baseball player and you never heard of Babe Ruth




So I made my point I think 

Never said you made anything up.  I did question the relevance of a study done on 8 year old software on today's available music software.  But you go on with your bad self for besting the old dude.   What a piece of work.

Best,
guitardood



2013/02/06 18:43:59
Mooch4056
I am saying I made it up. 

Did u even read it? It's obviously made up. 
2013/02/06 18:52:14
backwoods
Guitardood- just import waves from one daw to the other, use same plugs and routing and pan laws.

It will give you some hard evidence which will persuade more people than your opinion.


Actually, don't use plugs
2013/02/06 18:59:17
webbs hill studio
who the hell is Babe Ruth and why does he have two girls names?
2013/02/06 19:03:03
Splat
I take offence with that ;)
2013/02/06 19:11:14
guitardood
backwoods


Guitardood- just import waves from one daw to the other, use same plugs and routing and pan laws.

It will give you some hard evidence which will persuade more people than your opinion.

Which waves should I import?   Yours?  Downloaded from somewhere?  A dance mix, despite the fact that I can barely tolerate that style?   I chose a tune I liked that had more than just guitar bass and drums and for which I had a decent MIDI backing track as well as the original Santana recording to use for comparison.


Part of my conjecture was that somewhere in the recording/mixing/exporting process,  a low-pass filter is being applied whether it be an actual filter or artifacting due to compression-vs-clipping or some other unknown cause.  That is why I re-recorded on each platform.


As for persuading anyone, to be perfectly honest, the only person I feel the need to persuade is myself.  My study was primarily for MY benefit.  I posted my thoughts and findings, as do many folks here, in the hopes that my experience might help someone else.   Trust that with the multitude of piss-and-vinegar responses, it'll probably be an extremely cold day in hell before that happens again.

My opinions are at least my own.  Take them, leave them.  Believe it or not, I truly could not care less either way.


I will say this.  A wise man once told this cocky 18-year old Mr. Know-It-All:"You know, you know, you know!!  Someday somebody is going to have something to tell you that you do not know and they're not going to tell you because......You Know!"


Best,
guitardood


2013/02/06 19:13:02
backwoods
Ok, I'll have to leave them sorry.

But if you make a big call the onus is on you to provide proof
2013/02/06 19:25:47
Mooch4056
webbs hill studio


who the hell is Babe Ruth and why does he have two girls names?

He/she recorded def lepard and ac/dc and was married to some country girl and stole 78 bases with a .421 RBI 






2013/02/06 20:07:25
webbs hill studio
thanks for that-just shows Wiki doesn`t know all the facts.

i better head back down stairs before i`m thrown out of here for not being an X Man.
cheers
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