"nor my Roland UA-101"

I use two UA-101 together (for recording, to get 16 tracks) without any problem.

But i use a dedicated laptop (HP DV7), and, when i upgrade, i make a complete reinstallation : first the OS (for me Win 7/64), then the MS updates of the OS, then the UA101 driver, then X1 and X1d, then X2, then X2a (so i have X1d and X2a side by side on my desk), then third-party plugs if needed.

No plugs from outside (except Voxengo Span and Flux Stereo Tools, and soon Fabfilter Deesser - and maybe Valhallaverb), which is easier since there is a lot of good included plugs (at least for me ! : Sonitus, PC2A, PC4K Comp and Gate, QuadCurve, Concrete Limiter, Breverb, etc), no internet, no wi fi, no bluetooth, nothing but OS and Sonar.

I didn't need to tweak the PC (although it is not actually up-to-date : i7 720 QM 1,6 MHz), and it is pretty stable.

I recommend everybody to be very careful with tweaking and with modify the registry.

I bought my first PC in 1984  (a Compaq AT286 !), and i tweaked all my PCs a lot during all these years.
In fact, there were a real problem of performance in these days, but now, with the modern processors, the amount of ram, etc, i think that very often "the cure is worse than the disease" (as we say in french). 
Be careful also with third party plugs : it is sure that too many plugs, not enough checked, decrease the stability.

I remember 1984 : nobody could dream to have as much power in the box, and to run a software like X2 (even with its bugs !).
And when i worked in the studio in the early '70, it was absolutely unthinkable !
So i'am always amazed by it all.

I'm just putting together scratch tracks for a new album hoping by the time I'm ready to record and mix the final takes a new patch will be out. When I first showed up here I noticed most of the real bad complaints about X1 were coming from the C patch and earlier (and boy were there some doozies) so I can only assume that eventually we'll have a stable X2. I probably won't be an early adopter next time around or if I am I won't start using the program until well after its release and it has been properly patched (don't want to miss out on freebies). I'm tolerating the little oddities and quirks because I just like X2 soooo much better than X1 and wanted access to all the new features.

Meh. I find it sad that this place has turned into a warzone lately over this stuff. Very disappointing. Patience folks... we'll get there. No need to eat ourselves alive.

Cheers.

I'm sorry, guys, but I refuse to believe that my computer specs and setup can cause these types of issues. I have run into some of them before, but this project (my first real big one post-Sandy, thus first with X2a) has elicited some strange behaviors that cannot be explained away. What in God's name is in my setup that could cause all the ProChannel high eq pots to run up to +16.9? Especially when it has never happened before in 6 years of using Sonar exclusively? Or cause all the faders to go back to 0? Or wipe out all my pannings? Or not allow me to push a clip to the start of a measure?

Seriously: if you haven't seen these yourselves, then God bless. But please don't go all fanboi on us and say it is something other than poorly-written and buggy-@ss code. That is an insult to all who are experiencing it.

It seems different people get different bugs and levels of "broken". It's really really strange and makes it extremely difficult to pinpoint solutions. Meh... what do I know? I'm a newb.

Cheers.

TS


"nor my Roland UA-101"

I use two UA-101 together (for recording, to get 16 tracks) without any problem.

But i use a dedicated laptop (HP DV7), and, when i upgrade, i make a complete reinstallation : first the OS (for me Win 7/64), then the MS updates of the OS, then the UA101 driver, then X1 and X1d, then X2, then X2a (so i have X1d and X2a side by side on my desk), then third-party plugs if needed.

No plugs from outside (except Voxengo Span and Flux Stereo Tools, and soon Fabfilter Deesser - and maybe Valhallaverb), which is easier since there is a lot of good included plugs (at least for me ! : Sonitus, PC2A, PC4K Comp and Gate, QuadCurve, Concrete Limiter, Breverb, etc), no internet, no wi fi, no bluetooth, nothing but OS and Sonar.

I didn't need to tweak the PC (although it is not actually up-to-date : i7 720 QM 1,6 MHz), and it is pretty stable.

I recommend everybody to be very careful with tweaking and with modify the registry.

I bought my first PC in 1984  (a Compaq AT286 !), and i tweaked all my PCs a lot during all these years.
In fact, there were a real problem of performance in these days, but now, with the modern processors, the amount of ram, etc, i think that very often "the cure is worse than the disease" (as we say in french). 
Be careful also with third party plugs : it is sure that too many plugs, not enough checked, decrease the stability.

I remember 1984 : nobody could dream to have as much power in the box, and to run a software like X2 (even with its bugs !).
And when i worked in the studio in the early '70, it was absolutely unthinkable !
So i'am always amazed by it all.

Yeah....I have Sony Vegas Pro on the same system that handles it just fine with no issues.
The UA-101 also handles everything else fine....except X2a.
If a system that will run Vegas Pro with no issues can't run X2a....well what is one think that
knows how intense Vegas Pro is? I know what I think. X2a needs a big fix.
 

I think it's all the Win8 stuff. It'd be interesting to see a comparison of the problems people are having on WIn7 vs. Win8. I don't think I've seen too many complaints from the Win8 crowd since the "a" patch. Should have been a dual release so us 7 users didn't have to be in the petri dish as well.

James, you say "I refuse to believe that my computer specs and setup can cause these types of issues."

Trouble is, we don't know anything about your computer specs or setup, so a diagnosis is a long way off.

That's not being fanboi, that's being practical.

Beepster

I think it's all the Win8 stuff. It'd be interesting to see a comparison of the problems people are having on WIn7 vs. Win8. I don't think I've seen too many complaints from the Win8 crowd since the "a" patch. Should have been a dual release so us 7 users didn't have to be in the petri dish as well.

It's not the Windows 8 stuff. This kind of behavior has been going on in Sonar since X1's initial release. Maybe the Windows 8 crap made it worse, but it's not the cause of it.

James is not one to post up here like this. He spends 99% of his time down in the song forums.

So please ... listen to the guy. Listen to all of us ... we're not making this stuff up.

Bub

Beepster

I think it's all the Win8 stuff. It'd be interesting to see a comparison of the problems people are having on WIn7 vs. Win8. I don't think I've seen too many complaints from the Win8 crowd since the "a" patch. Should have been a dual release so us 7 users didn't have to be in the petri dish as well.

It's not the Windows 8 stuff. This kind of behavior has been going on in Sonar since X1's initial release. Maybe the Windows 8 crap made it worse, but it's not the cause of it.

James is not one to post up here like this. He spends 99% of his time down in the song forums.

So please ... listen to the guy. Listen to all of us ... we're not making this stuff up.

Seriously, I feel for anybody who is gets halted when working. I know it has to be maddening. I hope cake finds the cause and corrects this for you and the handful that is having problems.  BUT, just because mine and other users report no problems, that does not make us fanbois or any other derogatory name thrown out here by the angry. My system works and works great. I'm not embarrassed by that. My sincere hope is for the ones having problems to get cake's support to get them corrected yesterday.

Hi, bub. I know you've been taking a lot of heat on here the past couple days but I didn't say he was making it up. I know there are bugs. I deal with them daily. I'm just saying that that X1d was more or less working and X2 should in theory be the same shell. I just have a feeling the intergration into an OS that hadn't been fully released yet my be gumming things up more than if they had just left that stuff out of the equation for now.

Cheers.