• SONAR
  • The verdict: X2a is not good. Unstable and buggy as all heck (p.5)
2013/02/05 12:08:40
bapu
mike_mccue


I had to wiki Solipsism. :-)

Thanks for that!

best,
mike

I had to Google wiki.


Thanks for that!


best,
bapu


2013/02/05 12:16:12
The Maillard Reaction


That was fast*






*just for bapsi
2013/02/05 12:20:26
chuckebaby
jamesyoyo


Bristol_Jonesey


James, you say "I refuse to believe that my computer specs and setup can cause these types of issues."

Trouble is, we don't know anything about your computer specs or setup, so a diagnosis is a long way off.

That's not being fanboi, that's being practical.


Jonesy, that wasn't directed to anyone on the thread when I wrote that. I had read through the other heated thread where Bub got into a tussle and wanted to avoid the snarky fanboi talking-down-to that happens when certain folks get involved. Asking specs is fine, even appreciated, but to the issues recounted above, they are completely irrelevant. Suffice to say that I am a pretty knowledgeable computer guy and don't have silly games or spyware/malware interrupting my musical endeavors. I also know how to use Sonar, as many will attest to that fact. These issues are so weird and out of my experience with Cakewalk that I had to write to vent.

jim,i know you know your computer better than anyone here because you live with it.
but thats not the point,the point is all these great minds on here might be able to help you with something you have over looked.
now if you say "thats impossible,i didnt overlook anything" that would be ignorant.
 
you have to admit yourself,not posting your specs and running about saying "unstable and buggy as all heck"
screams that you want no help and would rather rant.
 
i can only speak for myself when i say,i couldnt for one minute push away help when i really needed it due to
thinking i did a full check of my own system.
 
even if you post them and dont reply,atleast you have ideas.
unless your afraid someone is going to zoom in something and say thats your problem,i could understand that.
but at this point what do you really have to lose,except learning something you didnt know?
2013/02/05 12:21:57
bapu
mike_mccue


That was fast*






*just for bapsi

See? .zipx


Just sayin'







BTW, Jim, I'm sorry for McQ/Bapu OT joking.
2013/02/05 12:25:58
brconflict
bapu


mike_mccue


I had to wiki Solipsism. :-)

Thanks for that!

best,
mike

I had to Google wiki.


Thanks for that!


best,
bapu


I had to ask Siri about Google. She said they broke up months ago. 
2013/02/05 14:02:47
dubdisciple
These threads illustrate what should be obvious by now; user experience is going to vary tremendously. No amount of beta testing is ever going to eliminate the Achilles hill of windows software. That being the infinite configurations. You can run beta software through strenuous testing cycles and eliminate every bug you find and eventually it will come across some variable when officially released that it did not encounter during testing. The tight control apple maintains over hardware is probably Mac's biggest advantage over PC's. X2 seems to work fine for me so far, but I realize that means nothing to the person that it is giving fits too. By the same token, I have yet to come across a piece of advanced user installed software that works perfectly for every customer. The on thing I can suggest is the user goes back to whatever did work until Sonar can get a finger on what Sonar does not like about his particular setup.
2013/02/05 14:13:10
brconflict
dubdisciple


These threads illustrate what should be obvious by now; user experience is going to vary tremendously. No amount of beta testing is ever going to eliminate the Achilles hill of windows software. That being the infinite configurations. You can run beta software through strenuous testing cycles and eliminate every bug you find and eventually it will come across some variable when officially released that it did not encounter during testing. The tight control apple maintains over hardware is probably Mac's biggest advantage over PC's. X2 seems to work fine for me so far, but I realize that means nothing to the person that it is giving fits too. By the same token, I have yet to come across a piece of advanced user installed software that works perfectly for every customer. The on thing I can suggest is the user goes back to whatever did work until Sonar can get a finger on what Sonar does not like about his particular setup.

Good point about Apple. This bring in the balance between cost vs. stability ins the software and OS. If you don't spend the extra $$ on a Mac Pro, for example, you have to accept that you will be willing to lose some of the confidence in reliability and stability such a system offers.

Unfortunately, having been a Mac user as well as a PC user for years, I can honestly say that Mac's are really no better in my case. I've had more hardware failures and just as many lock-ups, freeze-ups and other issues that I have with PCs. I'm not saying I get these issues all the time, but I can't fully argue that Macs are better. I can only argue that they cost much more than PCs and hold their value longer. AppleCare necessary. 
2013/02/05 14:27:47
dubdisciple
brconflict, thanks for pointing that out before this degenerated into a Mac versus PC debate. I was certainly not trying to imply Apple was better. IMO they are overpriced but imo more stable for the average consumer. For power users running more advanced software, I think the stability issue gap closes some. My only intention was pointing out that it the challenge of consistency rises the more variables are thrown in.
2013/02/05 15:11:17
Beepster
I was considering a Mac Mini when Garage Band 2 came out. Problem was I was using a PCI interface back then. I'm still kind of curious what I could make a Mini do. I've never used a Mac before. I have USB interface now so I THINK that would solve one problem. I keep hearing that Macs still have a tendency to bug out and I've never liked the idea of not being able to replace parts myself. Meh... if I had the cash I'd have computers and programs of different flavors all over my studio. For now my current beast and Sonar will have to do. It seems to do what I need it to even if I have to wrestle with it sometimes. I am intrigued by the new Cubase but the bugger is only 32 bit. Not sure what that would even mean for my needs really. All I know is 64 bit seems to be where everything is heading and something about 32 bit not using all my 16 gigs of RAM.

Meh. I remember when all I had to do was plug in and shred out. lol
2013/02/05 15:19:00
bapu
James,

GodDanglingParticiple might say you should to try Mixmaster.


If I understand him correctly, you just use a soundblaster card with that thing and it "just works".
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