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  • NEW TO SONAX X 2 NEED HELP WITH COMPUTER SETUP AND... (p.2)
2013/02/05 13:56:32
chuckebaby
i think im about to agree with bristol jones.

that and install sonar to the directory's it chooses,dont get fancy whiping a piece here on C:/ and the vst's on D:/
2013/02/05 14:09:52
FastBikerBoy
Ref the ZED-R16. You'll probably find the older driver (3.5.5) better than the latest driver. On my system the newer driver introduces a lag for playback amongst other anomalies.

I also had issues connecting with my mobile system until I bought a card with a TI chipset.
2013/02/05 14:28:29
Sir Les
OK..Beepster..thanks again...

Yes I recorded 10 tracks of audio for over 2 hours straight, in Sonar x2, using the provided Allen and Heath mixer map setup....And it went well,...

Although I was watching the cpu and hard drive metering window in Sonar x2...to see what is happening....
While doing just that, during recording, the metering in that window went through the roof a few times, putting a nasty glitch on the recording session on a few spots.....no problem with crashing yet...but that kinda thing should not be going on....so when the session was over, ..I watched that window some more, and It spikes when nothing is being done occasionally/ speratically....Not sure why.
And this could be the problem with non native 64bit applications like ACID AND PROTOOLS>?

Sorry for my misspelling, and or pargraph structure.....Not educated in language properly...So try to bare with me...I am getting somewhere...

Asus has provided a 1402 updated bios, and other drivers I have to update...maybe that will help?

Firstly..In Bios setup...I have ****ed the vurtual CPU thingy..I was instructed by Sweetwater (DAVID) to inpliment its deactivation for smooth Protools functionality...Should I resort to the default settings first in the new Bios revision?..and then install all MB win 7 drivers...in windows?
..
Also I was told to deactivate the JM controller..as it posses a problem in Protools also.

I also deactivated the onboard firewire...so it would not conflict with the LaCie 800 pci-e card.

If I need to do a complete wipe out of my drive (not necessary?)...No matter what is done to that...the bios remains set with them settings I posted , even after renewing the Bios..they are still set like the old bios.....Not sure if any of these things interfer with Sonar or not...I have seen nothing on this Vurtual VT setting listed..or remarked on yet ..or the JM controller.

So harddrive setup is a bit off kilter with putting sata 3 on sata 2 prots...surely this is causing issues.

So I bought a sata 3 card with two internal ports...This might boast performance?

Also..I see sonar x2 working...but could become unstable, if this cpu and harddrive issue continues...when recording 16 tracks at once...if the system crashes...What happens to the harddrive (hours of content)..as from past experiences, the recording is not rendered, nor can i find any data that is retrievable..to any extent...
Do I need to wipe/format the recording drive...as I can only imagine 1 and 0 spewed in disorder all over that drive.....Am I thinking correctly?

Again thanks...Just gonna finish up the updates ...when the bios settings are addressed.

I also have the System in question online now.
So I can post up the system specs...and correction to the cpu 980x and memory 1866mhz...But that will show with the next posting....If need be.
2013/02/05 14:48:37
Sir Les
Thanks fastbikerBoy...

I did notice a lagging when firing up x2 with the zed mixer improperly setup..I think?...It seemed to get better once I put in the provided map for the zed mixer.
but I still noticed lag when doing certain things in that session...So perhaps it is a Driver issue?...

Anyway...I believe the Zed is no longer being improved upon driver wise...and from what I have seen on the Allen and Heath site, they have let it ride Since Acid pro 6..and sonat x1 .which is a long time ago...So, Where does one go?..forwards or backwards?

If you say the older driver work better than the new...then a problem we have...the Dice driver is not gonna like my system, and my system is not gonna like the dice driver..perhaps?...as allen and heath recommend the new driver....hmmmm.

oh well I guess it is the path I have been on since 1997...same old same old song....

But atleast I am making progress in knowing where the bugs are...its finding a proper poison to rid the raskles once and for all...

Funny I just grew a hair...lol...Thanks for that tip...might save me months of frustration later on.

2013/02/05 14:53:04
Beepster
Well I'm not a tech. I can only really offer you the general tidbits I've picked up along the way. The other guys here know a lot more than I do. I think if you are having a noticeable spike like you describe something is happening in the background that needs to be turned off. Are you using an anti virus? If so which one? I'm not saying this is the issue but it is generally recommended to either keep the DAW offline and disable your anti virus and/or use a light anti virus such as Microsoft Security Essentials (which Cakewalk support said would be fine on my system). If you are using something like Norton or AVG... well they are resources hogs.

But seriously those spikes could be one of hundreds of things going on. You really should just get a good description of what your gear is, what programs you have installed, what you are attempting to do when you run into problems and send that off to Cakewalk. There is also the option of contacting a pro DAW builder and paying them to work through this with you for a fee. There is a fellow on here who works at StudioCat and I think he does that type of thing. There is also a place called ADK who build DAWs but I'm not sure if they offer paid support (they are listed in the recommended systems section of this site).

Sorry but I think I've given you about all the info I can so hopefully the pros show up and can help you a little more. I'm still trying to figure a lot of this stuff out myself. BTW FastBikerBoy has now shown up in the thread (hi Karl) so listen to his advice as he's smart and check out his vids.

Cheers and good luck. ;-)
2013/02/05 14:55:09
Beepster
Ah, good. You noticed FBB. He's a helpful fella. I owe him many pints. ;-) 
2013/02/05 15:30:11
Sir Les
Thanks beepster and others...I guess I am a long way away from bliss..but closer and closer to paradise... here...than there... I am sure we will snuff out the buggers once and for all!!!.

I am now in window 7 system info, on my first system..
Fault Bucket errors galore...
Suppose this is due to the crashes while recording many tracks for hours at once?....eech.

Now should I get sysoft sandra to get and post the system info...?..So you techies can help...cause I do not think I can copy and post all this stuff here...?...am I right?
2013/02/05 15:45:07
Beepster
Huh... now I'm not saying this is the way to go (NOT A TECH) but perhaps a registry cleaner like CCleaner might be in order here? IDK... how much stuff do you have on the system? Perhaps after a call to Cakewalk and gathering up all the info you can on the issue it might be worth starting completely from scratch (like wiping the system and reinstalling everything with your new found knowledge). I've been meaning to do that with my rig. 

But yes... definitely the more info you can provide the more the tech dudes here, at Cakewalk and anywhere else is best. Seriously give Cakewalk a call if you can. It's well worth the dollar or two in long distance charges.

Cheers.
2013/02/05 15:46:30
garrigus
Beepster

the X2 Power book should be out soon if it isn't already. 
Thanks for the mention, Beepster! Yep, the books is coming soon.


In the meantime, it's available for pre-order...
http://www.garrigus.com/powerbooks.asp


Scott

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2013/02/05 15:50:07
Beepster
Right on, Scott. I might actually have some dough to buy it if I can make a few of my current plans go through. Kind of curious... if I buy a hardcopy will I have access to a PDF version?

Sorry to go off topic.
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