This is probably laughable for some of you, but I have never had to use a headphone mix until now...I'm using a MOTU 2408 and have Cuemix DSP...should or can I use the routing within Cuemix or set up one within X2...if so how do I do so and which is the best method...Thanks in advance guys!
David

Not sure about the MOTU so can't help you with that.

But what I do is this - and it all hinges on whether you have a spare pair of audio outs on your interface.

If you have, create another Stereo buss & call it "Phones", or something equally obscure

Insert sends on whatever tracks you want to hear & blend each one to taste.

Or you can run your sends from your busses, which is what I do.

I then feed the hardware outputs (3/4 in my case) to my headphone amp & I can connect up to 8 pairs of phones in here, but they are all listening to the same mix, which might not be suitable for what you want.

Cuemix is what I use for that purpose.  I'm making the assumption you're doing this for tracking?

On my setup, I have a headphone amp hooked up to a pair of outs on a 24/io.  In cuemix, I than go to the "Mix" for that pair of outs and adjust faders to taste.  Too bad there is no EQ in Cuemix for the PCI-424 devices, but the samson headphone amp I use does allow individual adjustment EQ and volume of each headphone output.

Best,
guitardood

Thanks Bristol..I kinda know what you are saying. I am not at my DAW, but will look to try this when I get home. I do have a headphone amp and I am pretty sure outs 3 and 4 will be the same for me as my master outs are 1 and 2...I do wish I knew how to work this CUEMIX more...I couldn't really find much on it as far as videos on Youtube..they all are pretty much about the Cuemix FX which is a different animal...maybe someone else here has some experience....

Whether to use the hardware zero-latency mixer or SONAR's post latency mixer depends upon the latency.  I have a TC K48 and the mixer is a digital unit built-in.  You can do anything with it but it is designed w/ teutonic logic.  Rather than using the well-known and loved analog model it has different panels for input and output and is very confusing.  Since latency is usually not a problem, I just use SONAR for anything complex.  It is quicker.  I don't know about cuemix.

See the other thread you answered in for SONAR's mixer.

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That's very true AT.

One thing I didn't mention in my reply to Frostysnake is that if you're intending to do overdubs while listening to a headphone mix, then you might have to disable all your FX while you're recording and switch them on again after you've finished. This all depends on how low your latency can be set whilst still tracking accurately.

The shortcut in X2 is 'E'

Yea, Bristol.  I forgot about that one.  Try overdubs w/ perfect space on a bus.  Guarenteed to drive your talent crazy - or  crazier.

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Thanks guys! I do appreciate your input here as I was  bit lost last night...


@Guitardood...what do you mean by the "mix"...sorry, I am not at my DAW, but I woill try to follow what you as well as the others have suggested to see what works best for me...and I am tracking at the moment...thanks again!

I use a 2408 and a 24io, and have a headphone mix that is sent to a separate headphone amp (a Samson). What I have set up:

1) Enable a pair of outputs in cuemix to feed the headphone amp.
2) Enable all inputs, in cuemix that you want to send directly to the outputs that feed the head phone amp. Understand though, that you have to control the mix for the inputs inside cuemix. For me, I use it to send the input of the instrument I plan to record, and raise the fader of the input to around -6, to keep it in front.
3) Create a bus for the headphone output with a pre-fader send off the master bus. Bring up the level of this bus so that its loud enough to sit behind the direct signal routed inside cuemix.

Remember, do not enable input echo for the recording track. IIRC, you can control the total output (direct signal + sonar mix) from inside sonar's console view using the mains faders.

The limitation of this set up is that you have to control the direct signal in cuemix. However, you get the benefit of near-zero latency.

If you need more detail in setting up cuemix, let me know, and I'll try to help as best I can.

Man thanks alot! I will have things rolling as soon as I get home..and excuse the ignorance, but what does IIRC stand for? LOL