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  • 64 bit can be done but to what advantage? (p.5)
2013/02/03 23:29:11
DW_Mike
CakeAlexS


Sadly none of us are recording with Elvis or The Beatles. My ex employer (when I was a spotty teenager) was once the producer of The Beatles believe it or not and I suspect he would have a field day reading these posts ;)

I'm sure he would Alex.  


Mike
2013/02/03 23:33:52
DW_Mike
konradh


If I had an unlimited budget and the entire staff of Abbey Road at my bidding as did The Beatles, I could probably get by with less computer power.

Hell, If I had that I'd just sit back and be a sponge.


Could you imagine what they could have done with today's technology?
Whew!


Mike 
2013/02/04 10:30:05
Freddie H
gcolbert


The reality is that 32 bit programs run best on 32 bit operating systems.  If, because of the VSTs and plug-ins, you feel the need to run 32 bit Sonar, you need to consider backing your operating system back to 32 bit Windows.  32 bit applications running on a 64 bit OS don't perform as well or as dependably.  We saw the same issues going from 8 bit to 16 bit applications and again going from 16bit to 32 bit applications. 
 
To the OP, if you have the need to run 32 bit plugs, reload Windows with a 32 bit version.  This will give you the best performance. 

 
The OS bit width and the application word size don't have anything to do with the recording sampling rate and bit depth.  It doesn't matter how you mix and match the OS/Application word width.  The sound will be the same.  in the DAW, the sound is nothing more than numbers and 2 + 2 = 4 if you are using a 32 bit application or a 64 bit application.
 
Glen
Even that is not true! I don't know what you have got this from but I'm sorry, you info can't get more wrong, Glen!
Any x32bit program or x32bit application runs better, faster and more stable on x64bit OS VS 32bit OS. All old XP programs runs more stable and better on Windows 7 x64 then Xp32.
 
So there are no benefits with x32bit only setbacks!
 
2013/02/04 10:35:33
Freddie H
slartabartfast



+1000000000000000000000000000000




Good to see you haven't lost your famous perspective, Freddie.


Perhaps you should consider scientific  notation before your zero key wears out.


No worries, I use x64bit OS so I have a lot of headroom regarding 1 and 0's.
2013/02/05 14:32:56
wmb
I'm glad this thread blossomed without turning into some kind of battle. The variety of responses made for an informative aggregate. I can tell a few people here were following me down the path of workflow vs sound quality considerations for the type of work I normally produce. Best of all I was inspired to do more research about how bitbridge and jbridge work and that it's something you set up one time per plugin as opposed to every instance. Also, that it seems like once a plugin is playing nicely it will continue to do so more or less. 

I don't look at this forum very often but when I do I see posts about 64 bit problems and I guess I got the impression that it was not totally ready for primetime. I also tried using a 64 bit version of vegas 8 early on and while it was great from some things it was very problematic with others. The later versions are completely usable and I don't even have a 32 bit install of those. 

The main factor is that I don't really want to change the way I work all at once. I have to be productive and if I didn't need more processing power I wouldn't change anything. I'm leaving an incredibly stable system behind that was just plain old 32 bit XP that just runs and runs and runs. Unfortunately it just doesn't run fast enough at higher sampling rates so in the name of progress I must move on.


My current plan is to go ahead with my 32 bit setup for my current projects but also start setting up 64 bit X1/X2 installations so I can begin figuring out the plugin management. 

Cheers all.
2013/02/05 14:39:53
WDI
chefmike8888


konradh


If I had an unlimited budget and the entire staff of Abbey Road at my bidding as did The Beatles, I could probably get by with less computer power.

Hell, If I had that I'd just sit back and be a sponge.


Could you imagine what they could have done with today's technology?
Whew!


Mike 
Played a part for one measure using amp simulator and looped forever. Yay! And Ringo was just fired because Paul decided he could program better beats. 

2013/02/05 14:44:18
WDI
Oh, and yoko became main singer as they just used pitch correction. Every one could tell but didn't care! Robot sound became legendary to reproduce and v-vocal now sells for $2000. Of course the original code with all it's bugs is best but hard to one by. 
2013/02/05 15:54:08
garrigus
musicroom
Here's some info on the Cakewalk site that you might find useful...
https://www.cakewalk.com/...reader.aspx/2007013187

Scott 
Thanks for the link Scott. I can absolutely attest to getting better performance with my system using 64 bit as listed in cake's article. I had to pry my hands off of a couple of cake's fx series plugs to finally leave 32 it. But the transition is quite worth it!
Hey David,


No problem. Yeah, it's an older article, but there's still some good info there.


Going 64-bit is definitely worth it and definitely provides better performance. I wouldn't say it's absolutely necessary for everyone though because some people only work on smaller projects or they just do audio, etc. For anyone using MIDI and lots of soft synths, 64-bit is a definitely step up. That extra RAM access really makes working with virtual instruments so much nicer.


Scott

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