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2013/02/03 17:53:13
mario
Hi,

scenario: I record the drum kit using 5 mics
               goingto 5 seperate tracks. 

              I currently workwith 15takes/layers.

What i am doing if I want to listen to take 3?

Answer: I manually Mute allthe layers 1-2 & 4-15

   WE ARE DEALING WITH 70 SEPERATE MUTE THAT
   HAVE TO BE DONE!

please tell I am an idiot and that there is a simpler way
of muting/un-muting all layers simultaneously; otherwise
the "we are proding a better workflow" publicity is, well,
let's forget it for now...I've just had a rough afternoon.

Mario
2013/02/03 18:12:53
Bigdogs
Can't you just solo take 3?
2013/02/03 18:53:38
gswitz
This may be too much of a pain, but I use the mute tool and click in the top half of the clips.
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Select all the lanes you want to mute, using right click drag lasso. Next, hit f10 a couple of times to get the mute tool, now click in the top half of one of the many selected clips.

Should result in mute happiness.


You can also toggle the mute selections with the same method. 

It also works across tracks, so you can do it on 10 tracks at once. To get slick, you have to practice the lasso select. Hit f5 before trying the right click lasso select to ensure you are in smart mode.
2013/02/03 19:02:58
Beepster
Hmm... multi select the tracks (Ctrl + Click the track number), hold Ctrl and click the solo button of the layer (take) you want to hear? Maybe I'm misunderstanding... and it has been a while since I've used X1 so maybe it doesn't work that way.
2013/02/03 19:05:40
Beepster
@gswitz... I think OP is using X1 because he said Layers instead of Lanes. As I said it's been a while since I've used X1 and my skills were rudimentary at best back then so I don't know how well the Mute tool would work for this.
2013/02/03 19:30:44
mario
Oops,

I forgot to mentionned I'm using X2....even if I said layers

1) honestly  forgot the solo approach. Faster than muting lanes.
    In my mind it's not an efficient approach. Don't forget that
    the big buzz with the re-design of the stable S8.5 was an
    Improvement in the workflow.

2) I ave to understand it but I'll try the lasso approach

Mario
    
2013/02/03 20:06:04
gswitz
Lasso works well for muting and unmuting lots of lanes. Don't forget ctrl + lasso too to unselect.

So, you could select 50 lanes, then ctrl+click or ctrl+lasso to unselect the 4 in the middle you want. Now f10 to get mute tool (or use T to get the pop up selector and choose mute by click-hold on the square on the far right then choose mute).

Now click in the top half of one of your selected tracks and it should toggle all of their settings. If the track was set to mute, mute turns off. If it was set not to mute, mute turns on.
2013/02/03 20:13:29
Stone House Studios
mario


Hi,

scenario: I record the drum kit using 5 mics
             goingto 5 seperate tracks. 

            I currently workwith 15takes/layers.

What i am doing if I want to listen to take 3?

Answer: I manually Mute allthe layers 1-2 & 4-15

 WE ARE DEALING WITH 70 SEPERATE MUTE THAT
 HAVE TO BE DONE!

please tell I am an idiot and that there is a simpler way
of muting/un-muting all layers simultaneously; otherwise
the "we are proding a better workflow" publicity is, well,
let's forget it for now...I've just had a rough afternoon.

Mario

I don't think I would use layers/lanes in this instance.  Are you going to comp from 70 different take lanes?  I would do this on tracks.
 
Brian
2013/02/03 20:16:57
gswitz
So, in the example you describe above, if all 5 tracks were next to each other...
expand layers on every track...
f5 to ensure smart tool
right click + drag to expand the lasso to select all layers on all 5 tracks.
f10 once or twice to get the mute tool (depending on what you used last).
now, click in the top half of one of the selected lanes
ctrl+shift+a to unselect all
f5 to get smart tool
next, ctrl click all the third lane of each of the five tracks
f10 to get mute tool and click in the top half of one of the selected tracks and it will turn off mute on all five disparately selected lanes.

pretty fast... I don't know. Solo would be how I would probably do it, but muting would work too and wouldn't be all that slow.
2013/02/03 20:49:10
Beepster
You could also just select all the clips > right click > Mute/Unmute (muting all of the clips). Now when you want to listen to a set of takes make sure nothing is selected (Ctrl + Shift + A) then multi slect the set of clips you want by holding Ctrl and clicking on them one at a time. Keep holding Ctrl > Right Click > Mute/Unmute. Now that set of takes is audible leaving the rest muted.

This isn't ideal and will only work for continuous clips but it's good enough for listening back to see what take you want to be your final. Then clone the tracks, archive the originals to get them out of your way but still have them on hand if you want and in the cloned tracks delete the unwanted takes and edit the keepers.

Using the take lanes Solo/Mute buttons would obviously be much better but they are buggy as all heck and I'm not sure how well they deal with multi selecting in this way. I seem to recall having some issues when I was playing around with something similar.
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