wst3


I'm not sure why Cakewalk is hesitating on the VST3 bit - VST3 is supposed to be backwards compatible with VST2.4, and possibly even older versions. There is probably a pretty good reason, at least from their perspective.  

I don't know what Cakewalk's reason is, but if I was running a software company, my reason would be there aren't that many VST3 plug-ins on the market. From what I understand, the amount of work to port something from VST2 to VST3 is considerable, so a company has to judge whether their time is better spent doing ports that appeal to a limited number of users running a limited number of DAWs, or something more universal.

When most DAWs support VST3, more VST3 plug-ins will become available, and more companies will have an incentive to support it. I do not know if there are licensing fees involved, but I do know there are licensing agreements, mostly involving liability.

yorolpal


Craig meets Freddie head to head in a Texas-No-Holds-Barred-Lights-Out-Chainlink-Cage-Death-Match.  Watch out Craig, ol pal.  Don't let him git ya in his famous 64bit "sleeper hold"...as the fans say, "IT REALLY MATTERS!!!!!!" :-)

Hey, I have zero problems with people having their own opinions. But you can't really have discussions with people who have their own facts, so whenever possible, I try to present the facts of a situation so people can draw more accurate conclusions than if they base conclusions on things that aren't true.

Installed 6.4.0 this evening and not working.  Distortion and no response from plugin. Plugins show as 32bit not 64 bit if viewed  as default in plugin manager. Back to 6.3.0 for me.

Again, with the new UAD 64bit plugs you have to "apparently" have both the default UAD folder that the VST plugs get installed into...but also a Program Files/Steinberg/VST plugins as well.  Check above in this thread and in the others about the new UAD 64 bit plugs.  Many of us do have the new 64bit version installed and running hot straight and normal.
 
 
PS:  I'm with ya Craig, ol pal.  But ol Freddie is a persistant cuss with a single minded approach to almost everything...so don't be too taken aback by his convoluted logic.  He's really a pretty nice feller at the end of the day.  As are you. 
 

yorolpal


Again, with the new UAD 64bit plugs you have to "apparently" have both the default UAD folder that the VST plugs get installed into...but also a Program Files/Steinberg/VST plugins as well.  Check above in this thread and in the others about the new UAD 64 bit plugs.  Many of us do have the new 64bit version installed and running hot straight and normal.
 
 
PS:  I'm with ya Craig, ol pal.  But ol Freddie is a persistant cuss with a single minded approach to almost everything...so don't be too taken aback by his convoluted logic.  He's really a pretty nice feller at the end of the day.  As are you. 
 

UAD 64bit is working great on my s\system.  I did have to go find them and put them in the proper folder.

I'm still interested as to whether anyone is actually having difficulties with Sonar and the 6.4 update, either 32 or 64 bit?
 
It doesn't seem to me to be causing any problems so I'm not sure what ANY of the anxiety is about especially since Craig has gone to the trouble of finding out and clarifying the situation.
 
There was a broken update for 3 weeks prior to the major transition to 64 bit and all of a sudden a huge doubt springs out of nothing.
 
Yay, I have no more bridged plug-ins on my system, it's a good day today!  Whats more short of my DSP card going up in smoke I'll be able to use this exact same set-up in 25 years time and it'll be working just like it is today.  It's already had more longievity than most hardware I've ever owned and it's still current.  Pretty cool I reckon.

Anderton

Freddie H


They state they will only support Cubase? Isn't that the same don't you think?
    

Did you even READ the first post?

Are you aware that Cubase supports VST2 plug-ins? Are you aware that if VST3 hosts can support VST2 plug-ins, and if the market for VST2 plug-ins is WAY LARGER than for VST2 plug-ins, companies that aren't terminally stupid will continue producing VST2 plug-ins?

Please read the first post to understand the difference between how UA defines qualifying a platform and supporting a platform.

 
Yes I have read and I know you can use VST2 plugins too. I know Cubase platform very well thank you.
I'm saying that if you have a plugin that support VST3 noone (in right mind) will downgrade and use the VST2 version in Cubase, StudioOne etc that do support VST3 already. Its like the same and as likely as a SONAR x64-user want to use the x32bit plugins instead of the x64 in SONAR x64? It will never happen!!!
 
Also VST3 has far much better functionality then VST2 both in Cubase and other platforms and it use lower CPU in use too. So why bother make two version of same plugin when everyone will only use the VST3 version in Cubase. End of the day it is only Cubase that we at UAD do support on windows platform. The rest that doesn't have VST3 embedded doesn't qualifying to support UAD platform.
 
We wasn't born yesterday, you know!   I have long experience about this so I know exactly how companies think and work to earn money.
A more then likely UAD support answer in the future: We are sorry your SONAR platform doesn't support VST3 yet. We are sorry but you need VST3 for UAD function correctly. Please contact support at Cakewalk. They doens't qualifying to support UAD platform yet.

Anderton

yorolpal


Craig meets Freddie head to head in a Texas-No-Holds-Barred-Lights-Out-Chainlink-Cage-Death-Match.  Watch out Craig, ol pal.  Don't let him git ya in his famous 64bit "sleeper hold"...as the fans say, "IT REALLY MATTERS!!!!!!" :-)

Hey, I have zero problems with people having their own opinions. But you can't really have discussions with people who have their own facts, so whenever possible, I try to present the facts of a situation so people can draw more accurate conclusions than if they base conclusions on things that aren't true.

Cool, me either!
 
I'm just saying I have long experience about this so I know exactly how companies think and work to earn money. I appreciate what you trying to do but you need to also be realistic and "read between the lines" what's going to happen..
 
By the way Craig, I think you are a nice guy. I like your post, so it's nothing personal!

  Only problem I’ve had with the 6.4 is that the meters of the Shadow Hill Mastering Compressor don’t always work: I use several instances in a project as buss compressors. The controls work and the SHMC sounds great, so it’s only a minor annoyance. You should use your ears and not your eyes for adjusting the settings, anyway...

Mwah


  Only problem I’ve had with the 6.4 is that the meters of the Shadow Hill Mastering Compressor don’t always work: I use several instances in a project as buss compressors. The controls work and the SHMC sounds great, so it’s only a minor annoyance. You should use your ears and not your eyes for adjusting the settings, anyway...

Send 'em a bug report!!!