• SONAR
  • Controller handles & selecting controllers - RESOLVED SORT OF.
2011/09/16 12:11:20
FastBikerBoy
Hoping someone can help me with this. I very rarely record MIDI controllers, and I'm beginning to find out why.......

I've recorded some CC-64 pedal events on a MIDI track that started off life as piano and is now moving to a synth like sound. As a result I want to delete all of the CC-64 events but leave the notes in place. Is there an easy way of doing this? Every time I select a controller it selects the note and obviously if I delete it takes the note with it. Am I being dumb as usual? But I think it is related to my second problem.............

which is..... I just don't see controller handles at all, even with "Show controller handles" selected. I know that velocity doesn't show handles but the pedal controllers aren't there either. I even inserted a few other CCs, to see if they appeared on those and they don't. Is there another setting tucked away somewhere I'm missing. I've found a couple of old threads where others have had this problem but none of those seem to have a resolution.

I've tried this on my laptop which is X32 all round and I can show handles and then as a result easily select the controllers and delete them. On my DAW though which is x64 all round this just ain't happening. It's bizarre to say the least unless there is some setting that I'm missing. Both running X1c build 319.

Any ideas/help much appreciated as always.
2011/09/16 12:39:19
John
The Event List is your friend for deleting stuff. Just have it show CCs only and use the delete key to get rid of CC64.
2011/09/16 12:39:35
Keni
Hi Fbb...

I haven't tried this or know if it's what you seek, but maybe change to using the separate controller view where each controller is discrete and you can erase all the controllers?

I'll have to give a look when I can...

Keni

2011/09/16 12:44:08
FastBikerBoy
John


The Event List is your friend for deleting stuff. Just have it show CCs only and use the delete key to get rid of CC64.


Thanks John - I can use that as a method but TBH I'm more concerned that I can't show controller handles in my x64 Sonar. I can on my laptop in x32 but my main DAW just ain't playin'.


Hi Fbb...

I haven't tried this or know if it's what you seek, but maybe change to using the separate controller view where each controller is discrete and you can erase all the controllers?

I'll have to give a look when I can...

Keni

Hi Keni - it is what I'm trying to do but it seems that it's not possible unless "show controller handles" is selected and for some reason in x64, it isn't working (for me at least)

Could someone using x64 please confirm they can see the handles. Thanks.
2011/09/16 12:52:27
John
The handles? This would be in what view? In the PRV in the lanes? Pedal events show in the track view as triangles. If you are talking about the notes pane in the PRV they may not show there. They should show in a lane though.


2011/09/16 12:57:51
FastBikerBoy
The PRV. In x32 on my laptop they show as triangles at the top of the controllers both in the lane or in the main PRV window if I'm not using lanes.

In my x64 version the handles just don't show at all. As a result I can't select the controllers separately from the notes.

I'm assuming that there is some obscure setting that I have different on my laptop or it's an x64 specific bug maybe? I know about the "show controller handles" option in the PRV controllers menu but it ain't happening on my main DAW (x64)
2011/09/16 13:09:26
John
OK I looked and CC64 does not show up in the PRV. It is in the Event List though.
2011/09/16 13:14:42
FastBikerBoy
Do you mean you've added it with some events and can't see the handles? In the PRV either lanes or main window I can see the controller lines showing that the data is there but can't get the handles to show at all. This seems to be they key for selecting the CC events alone.

It should be possible and as I've said on my laptop I can, I'm very confused by this ATM (confusion being fairly normal for me. )

Thanks for taking the time to try this for me Jon. You are on x64 IIRC?
2011/09/16 13:32:02
John
In the PRV no CC64 shows up at all. They do show up in the Event List and in the Track View.

I checked in the notes pane and the controller panes of the PRV. Only velocity showed up. I am on 64 bit Sonar X1c. Your observation is confirmed.
2011/09/16 14:17:14
FastBikerBoy
Thanks for your time and effort John. I've filed a bug report - CWBRN-6172

If anyone else has a solution to this please post it, in the meantime I'll update this post when I get a reply from CW.
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