I don't mean to start one of those sad spammer threads, but I'm experiencing quite some problems with project save and restore in X2a, which become very frustrating:

• Project occasionally does not load for no obvious reason. When opened in SAVE mode with SHIFT key option and plug-in loading prompts are all answered with "YES", the projects opens (but not with "Yes to All"). When saved again, regular project open functionality works ...
• Sonar hangs when saving project. It writes only 22KB files (of ~12 MB), hangs and never returns (not responding until killed and DAW is rebooted). This is very frustrating as I lost a number of MIDI e-drum takes several times already.

My project is of moderate size (~35 tracks at the moment, ~10 soft synths & samplers, needs about 3.9 GB of 32 RAM GB available). I'm getting afraid to push the save button ... but I have to ...
 
Anybody seeing anything similar? Any helpful suggestions?
 
This is a new DAW, dedicated only to the studio, no connection to LAN, etc. So the DAW shouldn't be the issue. And 8 takes of 16 beats of MIDI e-drumming should not be a problem, either ...
 
 

Hi:
Try this, see if it works.
You need to put BitBridge.exe to start when you start up your computer.
You can put in your Desktop and run it before you run Sonar, or you can put in Startup.
I found out this by accident when I had the same troubles as you are having right now.
I was looking in Porcess and I noticed that if I have BB.exe in there than I am fine.
So try it.
First look for Bit Bridge.exe. It is in:
BitBridge.exe not .dll
it is in under:
c:
Program Files
Cakewalk
Shared Utilities
Let me know how this works.
dan le

Thanks dan le,

I'll give this a try tomorrow. I just left the studio after 3 more crashes in 2 hours.

Additional observations were: it seems to be better if I don't record in loop mode using take lanes (at least no crashes while saving straight after recording) but then 3 crashes while editing in piano roll view (and with increasing number of edits piano roll got slower and slower ...)

Are you using any plug-ins of questionable quality, i.e., freebies or shareware? 

Just because the computer is new doesn't eliminate the possibility of bad memory or disk errors. I would test both. 

Do you have the latest drivers for all of your hardware? That's a lot of hardware. Are you trying to use more than one audio interface at a time? 


Is that WIN 7 64-bit Professional or Home? 

Hi,

no freebies or shareware
currently applied plug-ins are only Sonitus, IK, ProChannel
soft synths are 3 instances of dimension pro, 4x kontakt 5, 1x true pianos, 1x SI bass

it's win7 64bit home, not pro

i use 2 interfaces, VS-700 + Octa-Capture synced via VS EXPAND using latest drivers, and OctoPre synced via ADAT

what would be an easy way to check for bad memory or disk errors?

To test your memory, the usual recommendation is to run a minimum of 4 passes of Memtest86+.
 
I just built a new system with 16gb of memory and it took about 8 hours if I remember correctly.  Overnight is good.
 
 

it's win7 64bit home, not pro

Then you are only able to use 16GB of your 32 GB of memory. Windows 7 Home only uses up to 16GB of memory. Windows 7 Pro uses up to 192GB. Windows 8 Pro uses up to 512 GB.


I would recommend upgrading to Windows 8 Pro now while its only $40 until 1/31/13. Then it goes up a lot. 

daveny5

it's win7 64bit home, not pro

Then you are only able to use 16GB of your 32 GB of memory. Windows 7 Home only uses up to 16GB of memory. Windows 7 Pro uses up to 192GB. Windows 8 Pro uses up to 512 GB.


I would recommend upgrading to Windows 8 Pro now while its only $40 until 1/31/13. Then it goes up a lot. 

I moved up to Windows 7 Ultimate when I first went to 32 GB of memory for this same reason.  I now use Win 8 Pro - but once I made the move to Win 7 ultimate, all of the 32 GB of memory was available.  (Win 8 move was not connected to memory needs).


If you have drivers for your gear available for Win 8 Pro, then I also recommend you consider the move to that.


Bob Bone

daveny5

it's win7 64bit home, not pro

Then you are only able to use 16GB of your 32 GB of memory. Windows 7 Home only uses up to 16GB of memory. Windows 7 Pro uses up to 192GB. Windows 8 Pro uses up to 512 GB.

Sorry, the late hour and the grump from the crashes fogged my head ...
 
I'm on win7 64 bit professional. I fixed my earlier post. I had the machine build by a pro outfit; they wouldn't have installed the 32 GB if I could only use 16, but to be honest I never really cared which version it was ...
 
 

I'm still working on figuring out what it could be ... will do more tests tomorrow if time allows.

It could well be that something in the project itself got screwed as there are some other weird observations: piano roll GUI slowing down drastically after a few MIDI drum edits, importing some track templates (which work when imported into an empty project) crash the project immediately ...

Yet, I'm reluctant to just rebuild the entire project; it would be quite some effort and this one was started with X2 only recently.