Jlien X wrote:

That's why I requested this "Legato and Overlap Correction" feature (available in Studio One v2.5) in another thread:  

These are the two things I miss most since I had to leave Logic when they got bought by Apple ($4000 for a computer...I don't think so, thanks)   

So I'm not an idiot, they really aren't anywhere to be found in Sonar...I used to use them ALL the time in Logic - especially writing string or woodwind lines....you could select, say 25 notes....Shift + L and Shift +O  ba da Boom done....keep expecting to see them pop up in an update 
  

Please, Please Roland save Sibelius from AVID and link it to Sonar :-)

Avid and Sibleius is one matter, and on the other hand, I believe Steinberg hired the UK [ex] Sibelius team for their research & developement team in London just before christmas, or maybe i just misread that.

Garry

CakeAlexS


> PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE understand how CRITICAL it is for a large number of folks here!
 
 
Surely you would go and get third party notation software if it was that critical... 
 
Maybe they should replace it with the forums software..(OK now I'm in trouble)...

I know you're half -serious but once again this shows a basic misunderstanding of what a lot of (most?) SV users want that crops up a lot on here.  I used to use SV a helluva lot until X1 made it a chore.  I don't want something that will produce printed notation like Sibelius etc - I'd be more than happy to see that side of SV done away with or replaced with interfacing to those products  - I want it for input and editing and as an internal record of the musical content for reference.  It seems quite a few others feel the same.
 
 

If I want to work with midi I’ll enter the data freehand in the event list.

I am guessing you do not work with midi all that much. You could record audio by manually writing in each sample value too, but I am assuming you probably prefer to have that process computer-automated to improve your workflow. I could live without the ability to record sound into Sonar at all, but I am not proposing that capability be dropped.


I came to Cakewalk software from early versions of CSound, and I have abandoned the flexibility and power of that program for the convenience of using a DAW. For whatever reason, Cakewalk does not seem to be interested in making it easy for people who want an efficient way to convert notation into midi. I suspect such people are a very small minority of users compared to those who want to string together snippets of other people's songs or repeat inane musical phrases ad nauseum.


Development decisions at Cakewalk are not going to be much influenced by a small number of people venting their frustration on this or any other forum. 

slartabartfast
repeat inane musical phrases ad nauseum. 

You've heard some of my collabs then?

slartabartfast

If I want to work with midi I’ll enter the data freehand in the event list.

I am guessing you do not work with midi all that much. You could record audio by manually writing in each sample value too, but I am assuming you probably prefer to have that process computer-automated to improve your workflow. I could live without the ability to record sound into Sonar at all, but I am not proposing that capability be dropped.


I came to Cakewalk software from early versions of CSound, and I have abandoned the flexibility and power of that program for the convenience of using a DAW. For whatever reason, Cakewalk does not seem to be interested in making it easy for people who want an efficient way to convert notation into midi. I suspect such people are a very small minority of users compared to those who want to string together snippets of other people's songs or repeat inane musical phrases ad nauseum.


Development decisions at Cakewalk are not going to be much influenced by a small number of people venting their frustration on this or any other forum. 

I don't want to poop on how anyone makes music.
 
I'm cool with traditional audio, MIDI, step entry, looped audio & MIDI, REX, samples, interactive matrix composition & performance, chord / melody generation, and piano roll / drum editor / event list / score based composition and editing.  Flexibility is key and the end result is what matters.
 
What I don't want to see is any of this funtionality get worse with successive releases.
 
** cough cough ** s t  a ff v  iew ** cough cough **
 
Sonar is so close to having it all.

Quote from Combo: 
"I know you're half -serious but once again this shows a basic misunderstanding of what a lot of (most?) SV users want that crops up a lot on here. I used to use SV a helluva lot until X1 made it a chore. I don't want something that will produce printed notation like Sibelius etc - I'd be more than happy to see that side of SV done away with or replaced with interfacing to those products - I want it for input and editing and as an internal record of the musical content for reference. It seems quite a few others feel the same."

Yes, this is exactly what I am looking for in Staff View as well. I already have Sibelius and a few other notation programs, but I want to be able to remain in SONAR to enter, edit and review MIDI using the staff view.

adding my 2 cents for the umpteenth time....

1)  I like to create a lead sheet in Sonar when composing a song.  And Sonar works fine for that until...You change keys and you can't transpose the chords.  How simple and silly is that?

2) Composing a piece with lots of instruments (jazz band, Orch, etc..) is hard to do if you can't see the notes.  Like playing chess and not seeing the whole board.

3)  Exporting a song From Sonar into any notation app is very, very labor intensive.  It should be a simple process, we are dealing with computers that do labor way better than humans.

just saying... 

All I can say it, I hope they finally give us usable SV.

I don't want to have to have multiple programs to enter notation.

slartabartfast

If I want to work with midi I’ll enter the data freehand in the event list.

I am guessing you do not work with midi all that much. You could record audio by manually writing in each sample value too, but I am assuming you probably prefer to have that process computer-automated to improve your workflow. I could live without the ability to record sound into Sonar at all, but I am not proposing that capability be dropped.


I came to Cakewalk software from early versions of CSound, and I have abandoned the flexibility and power of that program for the convenience of using a DAW. For whatever reason, Cakewalk does not seem to be interested in making it easy for people who want an efficient way to convert notation into midi. I suspect such people are a very small minority of users compared to those who want to string together snippets of other people's songs or repeat inane musical phrases ad nauseum.


Development decisions at Cakewalk are not going to be much influenced by a small number of people venting their frustration on this or any other forum. 

the event list comment was just a joke. i would like to use SV but don't and end up using final.