Bob Bone , thanks man. I need a break, I've been behind this computer screen a long time, I'll be back tomorrow(Thur) with a more detailed description of my problem. Have a great night!

CakeAlexS - no need to reply to me, have a great day!

2nd violation reported to board admin (abuse).

Ok, everybody. Let's put the quarrel above in the " Glitchy starts"-folder and forget it - right? It's very, very common that newcomers accidentally or otherwise start several threads on the same or almost same topic, before they see how the forum works. It's not fatal. The understandable frustration in the starting phase can cause some extra tension, too, and make you write things you normally wouldn't.

P.Couch: As requested by others earlier, please tell us what you're doing, otherwise we have no means for helping.
-What soft synths are you using and how do you insert them?
-To verify: When the soft synth is inserted, what are the ins and outs of the tracks in question?
- What do you mean by playing wav-files through soft synths? I'm not the only one here who is confused by that part.

CakeAlexS


2nd violation reported to board admin (abuse).

Alex, your original point was valid.  Your subsequent actions of reporting the OP (the first time) for essentially trying to come up with a way to get help while at the same time ducking any pouncing on him for a newbie mistake were perhaps a bit much.  

He did apologize for his mistake.  I believe he was also trying to get his system specs attached to the thread and did not know they already would have.  He is new.

To Mr Russet - or was it Twice Baked? :), (I fear I will soon run out of potato varieties)


It would be a good idea to edit one of the two threads at this point to add to the SUBJECT line something like 'Duplicate post - ignore'.  This would let forum folks know to not bother reading the thread, to avoid wasting their time.  I think if it were me I would choose to edit that first thread and leave this one as the active one

It would be the polite thing to do, as a matter of forum etiquette.  As the original poster, you can edit the subject of your thread to do this.  You will see that others edit their subjects all the time.


Another tip, for whenever you post something and it gets resolved, is to also edit the subject of the thread to let folks know that the issue was resolved, again so that they can skip reading through a bunch of posts needlessly, and also it helps when folks are looking for a solution to something and they come across your thread as one of several threads returned in a Google search.  They would see in that case that for the posted issue that a solution of some sort was found.

Potato Couch


To any good people still left here, there is an update to my problem. My SoftSynths sound bad playing both MIDI or .wav files. At first, I thought it was just MIDI. What I mean is, as asked by "slartabartfast", that there is some type of distortion or defect to the sound that is heard on all of the patches, and you can't tell a bass from a flute from a cymbal, they all sound similarly incorrect. When I first was playing .wav files from the Browser, it was great. Now those too sound terrible. The only thing I recall changing is the drivers from WDM/KS to ASIO, which seemed to have not affected the softsynths behavior, did help with latency though.

Thank you for some clarification on the quality of the sound - being distorted to the point of not being able to tell what the sound is really supposed to be.


It would seem to be either a bad driver install, a bad driver version, and/or at this point settings issue with using ASIO.  For many folks - ASIO seems to work better as the driver mode, better than WDM.  There are settings you have to make - and change - to get ASIO working with a balance between sound quality and the load placed on your system.  Getting those right is a process, and once that balance is achieved you should not have to keep going back in to tweak them very often, if at all.


So, please list:


1.  The exact version number of the ASIO drivers for your Presonus audio interface
2.  In the UI for the audio interface, what is the Sample Rate, and what is the ASIO Buffer Size set to?
3.  In Sonar, in Preferences>Audio>Driver Settings, what is the Sample Rate set to there?  (It MUST match the setting from the audio interface UI).
4.  What is the Record Bit-Depth set to in Sonar?  You can see this in a couple of places - where you would go to set it is Preferences>File>Audio Data.  While you are in there, I recommend you check the box to tell Sonar to use Per-Project Audio Folders.  (That will tell Sonar to create an Audio folder within each Project to hold any audio data for the project).


AFTER you review this and respond, I will put together a series of steps for you to follow - to try to achieve a working balance between sound quality and system stress.


Hopefully between everybody you can get this resolved.


Bob Bone

Sadly newbie or not when direct insults are made I take  offence ( I don't mind strong opinions however flawed). I saw no apology , quite the opposite. We were trying to help esp in the previous thread and we should have stuck to this thread. Poster was politely guided twice about this, each time it was ignored so a slightly firmer post was made, esp when it appeared requests were being purposely ignored. At no point was I rude. We were polite and helpful on the other thread as well. We should have left this thread alone.

Hopefully board admin will be coming online soon. I maintain my complaint.

I'm gonna throw out a SWAG that the output of the MIDI tracks is assigned to GS Wavetable synth on the audio card, rather than the intended soft synth.

Was there somewhere in all this text the name of a SoftSynth in question?  Most SoftSynths I have play samples and those samples are controlled by MIDI messages.  Even if it is a loop, from the synth standpoint, it is just a sample triggered by a MIDI note.

What exactly are we talking about here?

I made my point regarding the first report - not the second.  :)

He actually did apologize:

"Sorry Cake, this is my first day on the forum, I'm learning. I made a new thread in order to include my "footer" & to be more specific about the question, like you asked."


Anyways - hope everybody works all of everything out.


Bob Bone