this is going to screw with easy european travel for people like me which is a drag. I thought it was going to be close but the other way. like james said the EU may make it pretty nasty for the brits now to dissuade others from leaving. it might be too late. i'm always paranoid that countries like greece who need massive help will get peeled off by russia  if it disintegrates. like usual-- it will be left to the US to worry about that.

backwoods
this is going to screw with easy european travel for people like me which is a drag. I thought it was going to be close but the other way. like james said the EU may make it pretty nasty for the brits now to dissuade others from leaving. it might be too late. i'm always paranoid that countries like greece who need massive help will get peeled off by russia  if it disintegrates. like usual-- it will be left to the US to worry about that.

Quite honestly, if the EU try any "nasty business" in retaliation I think it's just going to fuel the exit campaigns of the remaining countries. And I think that once the initial shock wears off they will realize that it is not in their best interests to penalize or boycott the UK in any way.

I agree sharke but it might just be the first domino and I see they are already beginning to pressure UK to start proceedings stat. putin is very delighted about all of this

Moskito:
How much you want to bet that this will hurt artists and musicians the most?
You just wait!
 
 
Well, if that's the case at least you wont be hurt.

Right now no one knows how this will end. It could be nothing more than re-working trade agreements and no mass exodus from the EU.

On the other hand, the EU could dissolve completely. Each country going back to their own currency and the complications that would create. Maybe stretching here a bit, but this could also mean the end of NATO.

Very interesting times to be sure. How England reacts in the coming months will determine the outcome.

jamesg1213

outland144k
 
The vote was largely split along age lines (younger- bremain, elder- brexit) and locale (urban- bremain, rural- brexit) in Great Britain.
 

 
Not that simple. Birmingham the 2nd largest city in England, voted leave. Some of the poorest urban areas in England had the highest percentage of leave votes.
 

 
Scotland and Northern Ireland voted Brexit.
 

 
The majority of voters in Scotland voted to remain.
 

 
4) London, strangely, could theoretically leave the EU on its own. It's status is closely akin to what we might call a city-state with a high level of autonomy.
 

AFAIK, there's no mechanism in place that could make that happen.

First, let me apologize, I meant to write that Scotland and Northern Ireland voted "Bremain"; this was a simple typo and my mistake entirely.
 
Second, that when discussing the breakdown of the voting re: locale in my first point, I said "largely", which is a correct summation, Birmingham's vote notwithstanding. It is "that simple" if one admits on any level to the validity of discussing demographics. 
 
Thirdly, London has never needed that "mechanism" (as a separate legal entity) to be in place; in one sense it already exists purely due to the nature of London's position as something analogous to (some would say synonymous with) a city-state (please see this article: https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2015/may/30/i-want-the-city-state-of-london-to-join-the-other-nations-reshaping-the-union ). The situation brought about by Brexit is unique; it simply has not a strong parallel with anything else that has happened in the history of London or the UK. Also, please note, I used the word "theoretically": this would seem to be the most apt word to describe the issue. If the question arises, it will take the courts to figure it out, I'm so sure. 
 
Basically, I've not got a "horse in the race" on this issue at all. I understand the complaints of the Brexits and the concerns of the Bremains, but on many sides, it seems a "six of one, half dozen of t'other" for me. The closeness of the vote would seem to bear this out somewhat.

 
I am very sorry that Jo Cox lost her life over this issue. That's the one surety with which I walk away from the issue.

sharke
Well, the Chicken Lickens were bound to come out in full force. I guarantee, none of their worst predictions will come true. Business always finds a way because people want to make money.

I'm very glad to hear you will stand guarantee for your words. Unfortunately both the currency traders and the very nearly half of us who voted to stay in the EU may not share your confidence.

So, moving onwards to your promosed bright future, an occupational pension fund I was paying into in the 90s lost roughly 15% of it's value overnight. Which is a few million quid. Will you be making a donation?

Although this conversation has been completely civil, I am locking this thread at the request of a user who feels it is potentially inflammatory.