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2017/11/25 16:38:31
pwalpwal
gibbon bashing doesn't help either, but who needs to vent about gibbons? david attenbruh?
2017/11/25 16:51:27
bitflipper
Gibson did not execute this well at all. But to be realistic, the vast majority of companies don't handle such situations well.
 
Decisions are typically made entirely at the upper levels of management. The rank and file are rarely if ever consulted. Senior people spend their work lives in a bubble of other well-to-do associates, boardrooms and golf outings. So naturally, they look out for their pals first, setting up golden parachutes and job connections. Only after they've been assured they can still afford their country club membership do they give a second thought to how their recently laid-off secretary will buy groceries.
 
This is just how it works. I've seen the process up close more than once. It's one of the reasons I walked away from the corporate world 20 years ago and opted for self-employment. Even though taking that route has meant income insecurity, going without health insurance, dealing with business chores when I'd rather be flipping bits, taking almost no vacations, and not being able to retire. But I'd rather go three months without a paycheck than ever go through the insulting experience of being kicked to the curb like a worn-out printer while the executive who's boot print was on my butt got a bonus for his innovative leadership.
 
Here's what Gibson should have done. Gibson should have gone to Cakewalk people and asked them to develop a shutdown plan. They should have asked them what the repercussions would be for employees, business partners, IP value, and customers. That would have been the smart thing to do, because they are not a software company. When they kill a guitar model, there are no repercussions except maybe that model now becomes a collector's item.
 
So yeh, I have to agree with the majority opinion here: Gibson really screwed the pooch on this one. That doesn't mean it wasn't a logical and inevitable business decision. It doesn't mean they are all jerks (well, maybe a couple of them). It just means there is some embarrassing incompetence among their management team, which anyone could already assume given their spiraling debt. You don't have to be an MBA to know they've been making bad decisions for awhile.
 
Still, Geoff's right. There is no point in moaning about how evil Gibson is, because it won't change anything. But they won't shut down the forum because of it. I doubt those executives are even aware of all this disgust and hatred being vented. They're all out on the golf course schmoozing their way to their next job.
 
2017/11/25 16:56:19
pathos
synkrotron
pathos
 
You forgot about the ex-Executive Vice President of Gibson!



I'm sorry but you will have to enlighten me.
 
cheers
 
andy




http://forum.cakewalk.com/FindPost/3415564
2017/11/25 17:00:57
synkrotron
pathos
http://forum.cakewalk.com/FindPost/3415564




Haha! Thanks... Yeah, but they sacked poor old Craig before all this, and although I am sure he does care what is happening here at the moment, I'm thinking he doesn't want to get involved.
 
cheers
 
andy
2017/11/26 00:00:55
ebibault51
To be clear, I don't care about Gibson. I like Cakewalk products.
2017/11/26 00:10:07
pmarangoni
konradh
Companies have to protect their shareholders




Only if they go public and actually have shareholders. What's wrong with staying private, and small, and nimble? Going public means you HAVE to increase profit on a regular basis, and that usually requires doing things to appease shareholders, and not necessarily customers.
2017/11/26 00:16:37
Serious_Noize!
The people who have the money and are making the money based off the Gibson name could care less what anyone thinks, you will never see them shed one tear over your feelings whatsoever. 
 
Truth be known, this isn't about Gibson, this is about Cakewalk and how Cakewalk made the decision to bail on us all. Twist things around in anyway you wish, but the reality is the name "Cakewalk" is the name you trusted and that is the name on the software and the name that made all the decisions, Gibson just purchased the company. And for all we know, I mean really, how do we know that Cakewalk didn't have a say in contract selling terms as to how their software moved forward or did not? 
 
I wouldn't be ticked off at Gibson for making a business move, I'd show my anger towards Cakewalk if I were you, because Cakewalk is the company that sold you and everyone else who purchased the product out, not Gibson...... 
 
 
2017/11/26 00:25:52
guitz
Gibson has probably heard it all many times over. They have threaded discussions on their very website for their guitars,etc.
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