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  • Vocal recording latency in X2a SOLVED
2013/01/22 17:42:25
bramwell
Hi,
  Just wonding if anyone might have some suggestions on getting rid of the latency when recording vocals.  I have Sonar x2A.  My machine is a ci7 with a 3 ghz processor and 12 gigs of mem.  My audio interface is a MOTU 2408 mk3 using a pci 424 card.  I also have an original 2408 on the same card.  I use a focusrite octorpre dynamic for my mic pre.  I use the adat interface from the focusrite to the mk3.  I am using the asio drivers.  I have adjusted the buffers on the interface from 1024 to 64.  When I record I have the echo input initiated.  However, I still get a noticeable and very dristracting latency when I attempt to record my vocals. 
 
Any ideas?
 
Thanks
Dave
2013/01/22 18:46:14
jb101
Do you have any CPU hungry FX such as Perfect Space running, or any look ahead effects?
 
What are your buffer settings?
2013/01/22 21:08:07
karma1959
Hi - You may want to considering monitoring via the MOTU, so you wouldn't have to monitor via the echo input function within Sonar.
2013/01/22 21:53:17
AT
Yea, use the moto soft mixer to get a zero latency feed.

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2013/01/23 00:59:49
TraceyStudios
Here are a couple of thing I have done to reduce latency. If i am using lots of processing, reverbs, effect, compressors, guitar rig etc. I freeze the tracks. This will free up psome resources so I can reduce my ASIO buffers down to 256 or 128. Or I just simply turn off reverbs etc. on a couple of occassions, I have bounced a stereo mix, used in current project, or created a new project with the 2 tracks bounced and recorded vocals, and then imported them back into the main project. However, that was when I had a single core computer / sonar 5, a few years ago.  May not be ideal, but ut has gotten the job done.   There is probably better ways to do this, however I haven't figured them out yet. hopefully someone will post it.
2013/01/23 04:10:51
Bristol_Jonesey
Whenever I record anything the first thing I do is to globally bypass all Effects.
2013/01/23 11:36:54
TraceyStudios
Bristol_Jonesey


Whenever I record anything the first thing I do is to globally bypass all Effects.
 
 
 
See, i learn something eveytime I vist the forum. I did not know you could globally bypass effects. I need to figure out how to do that! Thanks Bristol!!

2013/01/23 11:51:41
brconflict
In the near future, I will publish on YouTube, through a screencast, or simply good illustrations how (in Sonar X2) to compensate for latency down to the sample! Even the ASIO driver "measured" latency is not accurate enough for me, so I will show a method of how this can be done, and it relies solely on YOUR actual hardware/software/drivers and such, so that you don't have to trust any of it beyond stability. If/when I get this done (hopefully in the next week)
2013/01/23 11:57:31
musicroom
Bristol_Jonesey


Whenever I record anything the first thing I do is to globally bypass all Effects.



^^^^^
I sometimes do this, but usually if I bypass the effects in the master bus I can get latency down to 128 or 64.
2013/01/23 12:04:32
Bristol_Jonesey
TraceyStudios


Bristol_Jonesey


Whenever I record anything the first thing I do is to globally bypass all Effects.
 
 
 
See, i learn something eveytime I vist the forum. I did not know you could globally bypass effects. I need to figure out how to do that! Thanks Bristol!!


There's a button in the Control Bar, I forget which module, but it's Labelled Fx. Toggle it on/off here.

Or...... there's a keyboard shortcut, I think it's 'E'
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