I'm in the process of mixing a live recording.  About 12 songs spread out over about an hour.  I wanted to mix a each song individually.   So far I have saved the whole templet in a new folder with the save as function then split the clips at the beginning and end of a song.  Then I deleted everything other than the one song and moved all tracks to the beginning of the timeline. 
  I will then have to repeat the entire process for any other song that I want to mix separately.  I have done this with one song so far.  It works fine but is somewhat time consuming.  I was just wondering if anyone had a quicker / easier way.   

I know what you are dealing with. I just edit the session as one really long song. Why? The reason is not much will change from song to song. The room is the same and the micing is the same. Thus there is not much reason to treat each song differently. As you well know things are never that simple. This is where automation comes in very handy. Also clip FX can be used to have custom FX on just a small portion of a track. Markers place at the beginning of each song will help with finding them and getting to them quickly.

After I have mixed the songs well enough I split then out and create each song as and individual one. This is where exporting a selection comes in handy. 

From there I will decide by listening if more attention is needed. Then its a ready for mastering which should not be a big deal. Because they should have a close relationship anyway sonicly.

Thanks John.  I may do some of it that way.  To add to the confusion there are 3 lead vocalist who also sing B/U vox when they aren't singing lead.  In most situations I'll center the lead vocal but I may make an exception and place them where they were on stage. Still  trying to decide which way will be the least PITA.

I've been there Jimmy and have tried several ways of dealing with this issue, each with its own pros and cons.  In addition to the suggestions already made....

You could keep all the material in one project, but do the following:
- Create a separate track folder for each song, and name the folder accordingly
- Duplicate all the tracks into each folder
- trim the tracks for each folder so that they represent the folder's song title

Now you can use the folders to reduce screen clutter, and only expand the folder for the song you are currently working on.  

If you find you that certain settings and FX are identical across several songs, then create busses for those and route the tracks accordingly.  The busses minimize duplication of effort and the tracks allow you to do specific settings that are required by any given song.

When you're done, you can then choose to export the entire collection of songs as one mixdown file, or export several parts by simply highlighting any given track folder and exporting just that song.

HTH

jimmyrage


Thanks John.  I may do some of it that way.  To add to the confusion there are 3 lead vocalist who also sing B/U vox when they aren't singing lead.  In most situations I'll center the lead vocal but I may make an exception and place them where they were on stage. Still  trying to decide which way will be the least PITA.

You can deal with this by automating Pan & Volume

I do that as well Jimmy,

One thing Ive learned is to pick a song that is compareable to most others and add all the FX, EQing, etc... and get it mixed out fairly well first and then Save As a Master Copy then,

I go with the steps you listed.

That way most of the stuff is there and close to a starting point for the others after you delete the un-needed clips 

I asked awhile back for a wav splitting utility for this very reason. The idea was to break up the long wav files into song legnth files for mixing. I ended up doing what you're doing now. It seems that some sort of batch splitter would be a time saver. Just thinkin' out loud.

Rocky

I'm probably going to do most of it like that.  Luckily I got a pretty good rough mix on the bass and drums that seems to work for the whole set.  There are some other issues that I'll just deal with as I go ( it's an eight piece band ).  I'll probably end up chopping up 3 or 4 songs indivually and mixing them one at a time.

Bristol_Jonesey

jimmyrage


Thanks John.  I may do some of it that way.  To add to the confusion there are 3 lead vocalist who also sing B/U vox when they aren't singing lead.  In most situations I'll center the lead vocal but I may make an exception and place them where they were on stage. Still  trying to decide which way will be the least PITA.

You can deal with this by automating Pan & Volume

I'm thinking I'm going to try to get away with only mixing a few indivually if I can.  Another thing to consider is the file size (over 10 gigs).  I usually track at 24/88.2 but decided at the last minute to go with 24/44.1. Glad I did that.  I still spend as much time saving and exporting as I do mixing.

digi2ns


I do that as well Jimmy,

One thing Ive learned is to pick a song that is compareable to most others and add all the FX, EQing, etc... and get it mixed out fairly well first and then Save As a Master Copy then,

I go with the steps you listed.

That way most of the stuff is there and close to a starting point for the others after you delete the un-needed clips 

Thanks for everyone's replies. So far I've mix three songs using the split and delete clips option. I then mixed a whole set using automation. Afterward I couldn't delete any tracks after the song that I was working with due to automation information that was stored on the tracks. 
 My question now is: Is there a way to remove automation information at the end of a track?