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2013/01/07 17:05:10
FastBikerBoy
Jim Roseberry



Sitemester: when your ready to work this out !! Pm me I will sort it out !!



Firewire audio interface with "rogue" Firewire controller.
Replace with quality TI chipset unit... and the problem is solved.   


As a ZED-R16 user who recently bought a HP laptop for mobile DAW use I can confirm that is almost certainly the problem. As per my earlier post, plugged into laptop snap, crackle, & pop. Plug into TI chipset express card in same laptop - works perfectly.
2013/01/07 18:32:58
Guitarpima
Jim Roseberry



Sitemester: when your ready to work this out !! Pm me I will sort it out !!



Firewire audio interface with "rogue" Firewire controller.
Replace with quality TI chipset unit... and the problem is solved.   


Maybe suggest which one and where would be best? That's why I never bothered with firewire. It's tough to find what you want unless you know exactly what your looking for.
2013/01/07 18:49:55
Jeff Evans
Newegg does not seem to have them but this place does:

http://www.inta-audio.com...1394a-ti-chipset-p2036


2013/01/07 18:55:43
StarTekh
Now if the user would just budge !! good work Jim !!
2013/01/08 08:54:40
Jim Roseberry
Now if the user would just budge !!



Well... that's the sad part of this
The OP's problems can be solved for ~$30 (new TI chipset Firewire controller)
The issue has nothing to do with software (Sonar or otherwise)


And yes, NewEgg does have TI chipset Firewire controllers.
Jeff M provided a link above


2013/01/08 09:27:31
Beepster
The REALLY sad part is he's been suffering in silence for so long. He could have saved himself a lot of frustration. Oh well. Hopefully he can get things running smoothly now.
2013/01/08 18:32:40
Saxon1066
vicsant


Excuse me, but what's wrong with the quick fix and the X2a patch?

Just finished an animation score which I did on X1d (btw, rock solid performance during the 3 weeks I was doing the animation score)  and am about ready to install X2...

Please advise on whether to install the quickfix and X2 patch.

Thanks.

I'm one who complained about X2a performance on my Win7 x64 system.  It's very sluggish on some of my high-track projects, and still buggy with take lanes.  X1d is still working fine for me, and it looks great with SonarMods.  If you have Win 8, you will probably be fine, like most people here.  My problem with X2a also seems pretty rare and may not affect you at all.  Why not go ahead and install?  You can always go back to X1.
 
I've also whined about switching to another DAW several times over the years, but Sonar is like a beautiful woman who is a pain in the A$$.  I just can't walk away; she's too hot, and I know her already.
2013/01/08 19:33:52
Starbuckle
I think it's cool that you came back and asked for help after all of that.  Nicely done.  It couldn't have been easy.

Duke
2013/01/08 20:10:11
VariousArtist
Suggested reading:

"Why is a dedicated FireWire card with a Texas Instruments (TI) chipset important on a PC"
http://avid.force.com/pkb/articles/en_US/FAQ/en404647


Important quotes from the article above:
"There are several FireWire chipset developers that build chips that are significantly cheaper than Texas Instruments, and for this reason, PC manufacturers are starting to use these less expensive chipsets. Unfortunately, many of these other chipsets are not as reliable as those manufactured by Texas Instruments. M-Audio cannot simply say only use Texas Instruments chipsets, because some of these other controllers actually work very well, and M-Audio does not want to endorse any particular manufacturer. "

"Even if your motherboard has an on-board FireWire controller with a Texas Instruments chipset, you may encounter problems because all onboard devices, including the FireWire controller, are run through the Southbridge of the processor. This means that there is a lot of traffic that the FireWire signal must compete with for access to the processor (all USB, onboard audio, onboard video, serial ports, network controllers, etc...). Data coming from all of these devices creates a bottleneck and greatly increases the chance of the FireWire signal being interrupted. The interrupted data is dropped to maintain the delivery time of the rest of the data. When too much data is dropped, the audio signal may be appear as distorted, completely dropped, or the computer may even drop the connection with the FireWire audio device. To avoid this on a PC, we always advise installing a dedicated FireWire card. This is because the PCI bus runs to the Northbridge of the processor. The Northbridge provides more reliable access to the processor because it only manages the data from the PCI, AGP, and memory."



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