LOL I give you guys credit for even posting in this thread. When I see a post count of 2 followed by a rant and a threat to jump ship, it tells the story. He's never asked for help. Anyone reading this forum knows that some of the dudes here have a better chance of helping you than Sonar support. Seriously. If it's not a bug or something broken with the program, there's enough advice here to fix a person or give them a solid work-around.

As for those that continuously complain....it's a tough call. I know for a fact that Bub has definitely had his share of issues starting with X1. He's tried to get help from everyone on the forum as well as Sonar support....and still didn't fair too well. I had some of the same issues he had, but luckily for me, one of the patches in X1 fixed me up. In a situation like that, it's tough not to vent...but in all fairness, a guy in that situation should probably try another DAW for his own sanity. I know that's what I'd do without even thinking about it...but that's me.

There was another name that was mentioned....I long for the day that the community wakes up and realizes that dude is one of the most misinformative, misleading, pompous, hurtful, and sarcastic individuals that has ever been on this forum. He wins the Richard Cranium Award every year hands down as well as honorable mention for the "start trouble and run" award. A respected member/drummer from the UK that followed his posts put him in line at every turn for a bit. I never said it, but should have. I salute you for your efforts (you know who you are)....and I wish the forum would have joined your crusade. I would have joined you, but I get too violent and own a home near this guy. Every time I go there...I entertain the thought of paying him a visit just to see if he'd attempt to treat me in person like he has numerous times on this forum. See? I start getting in nut mode....so I really try to stay away from stuff like this. I've been doing good with my anger management. :)

-Danny

Danny. "There was another name that was mentioned....I long for the day that the community wakes up and realizes that dude is one of the most misinformative, misleading, pompous, hurtful, and sarcastic individuals that has ever been on this forum."

Stop talking about me like that!

LOL! You so know it ain't you. I can't tell you how many times over the years that you've bailed my sorry butt out. ;)

-Danny

jb101

Guitarpima


Why bother? He only has 2 posts so he's probably from gearsluts.

Look at his name. He's probably from gearsluts.

as pointed out, a studio down for 7 days?

Hyperbole, or a frustrated noob?
 
Just because he sounds like he's from gearsluts, doesn't mean we need to act like we are, does it?  Not straight away, surely?  Maybe we should all move there.  My original posts were about benefit of the doubt, innocent 'til proven guilty.  Stupid idea, I'm of to gs..

You're right. My apologies to the good people over at GS. I never go there but a while back, it seemed like there was some kind of feud between this forum and GS.

jb101

John

Sonar does not need a lot of tweaking. I have or had run almost all DAWs at one time or another. At least those the run on a PC. I can state accurately that Sonar through the years has been at least as stable to all the others and most of the time more stable. X2a is very stable here.

Bub is unhappy with the new Sonar as well as having all sorts of problems with it. I have, and so have others, tried to help him but to no avail.  None the less he has come into any thread that is a negative one about X1 or X2. Its his style now. He offers no help or a reason for a problem all he does is bash CW and X1 and X2. Its becoming tiresome.  

Some one else will need to post this answer to Bub because he has blocked me.

But if some one is this unhappy with a product it seems to me that the person would find another product that they like and be unhappy there.

In other words its time to give it up and move on Bub. 

 
+ many many many, John.
 
Bub is not alone in this.  Mcq and a few others need to wake up and move on.
 
It would make them, and us, much more content.
 
I know I keep saying this, but some dullards never listen - "If you can't hold an adult attitude in front of something, then walk away."
 
Being child-like is not a bad thing, being childish is.  Bub can now put his fingers in his ears and go "Wah wah wah" and block me.  This is to be expected.
 
I miss his old avatar, it so suited him..

I've had nothing but good things to say about X2. I've repeatedly said it works great on my system.

Why don't you big talkers attack Danny? He's got his hand on Ctrl-S all the time now too ... he said so in another thread just the other day that meandered on for about 5 or 6 paragraphs. As a matter of fact ... he's said more bad about Sonar lately than I have.

See ... the difference between me and Danny is, he'll actually come to you two a-hole's houses and beat you in to a bloody pulp, like you deserve. But me, I'll just sit here and talk you to tears. That's why you don't bust his balls like you do mine. You have no spine.

Danny Danzi

As for those that continuously complain....it's a tough call. I know for a fact that Bub has definitely had his share of issues starting with X1. He's tried to get help from everyone on the forum as well as Sonar support....and still didn't fair too well. I had some of the same issues he had, but luckily for me, one of the patches in X1 fixed me up. In a situation like that, it's tough not to vent...but in all fairness, a guy in that situation should probably try another DAW for his own sanity. I know that's what I'd do without even thinking about it...but that's me.

-Danny

I did go to another DAW. Paid some bucks for it too. I upgraded to X2, and it sits on my HDD. Actually, I lied ... I did a fresh format with all MS updates and it's gone now. I just have X2. X2 has been working great so far and I have no intention of installing the A patch, especially after reading all the posts about it here lately.

Regarding my X1 troubles, and ya know, I hate to say "my X1 troubles" because so many had the same problems ... we can sit here and troubleshoot my system till we're both blue in the face ... but here are the facts ...

On a fresh install of my OS with all updates to my PC, I can install X1 and it simply will not work.

On a fresh install of my OS with all updates to my PC, I can install X2 and it shows no sign of the troubles I had with X1.

If you still conclude that the problem is the PC, you need to find another hobby.

(That's not directed at you Danny, but whoever reads it.)

Bub
I've had nothing but good things to say about X2. I've repeatedly said it works great on my system.

Why don't you big talkers attack Danny? He's got his hand on Ctrl-S all the time now too ... he said so in another thread just the other day that meandered on for about 5 or 6 paragraphs. As a matter of fact ... he's said more bad about Sonar lately than I have.

See ... the difference between me and Danny is, he'll actually come to you two a-hole's houses and beat you in to a bloody pulp, like you deserve. But me, I'll just sit here and talk you to tears. That's why you don't bust his balls like you do mine. You have no spine.

I can vouch for all of this as well. I definitely have had my share of legit gripes and have never been afraid to post about them. I think the key to how I delivered that post you're mentioning was, I really didn't rant about anything explained my issues as well as being sympathetic to the OP there as well as others who have had a hard time with Sonar. I sort of just spoke it the way I've lived it in all the years of using this product. There are definitely changes that need to be made. I think the more we voice them in a caring way, the more the bakers may at least look into what we're talking about.

Yep also true about ctrl+s. Especially true for me when using Sonar 64. That bitbridge server thing just doesn't like me. That said, if you keep everything as "64" as possible, I fair well with it. Sonar on its own for 64 bit using its plugs has never crashed on me. It's those darn 3rd party plugs that seem to bite me. Sonar X2 after this last patch, hasn't given me any issues other than UAD 2's newest update (which I uninstalled and reverted to an older one) and ARC was going ballistic in X2. I had to use a later version with a work-around, but no more crashes so far with 32 bit. But I'll make no bones about it....Cakewalk/Sonar has forced me to do more stuff to my pc to make things work smoothly than any other DAW besides Cubase 3 and PT for Windows. Cubase and PT for Windows were the worst experiences of all time for me.

Oh please Bub (said in a sincere begging voice) don't make them come after me. LOL! I've been doing so good! :) 

I did go to another DAW. Paid some bucks for it too. I upgraded to X2, and it sits on my HDD. Actually, I lied ... I did a fresh format with all MS updates and it's gone now. I just have X2. X2 has been working great so far and I have no intention of installing the A patch, especially after reading all the posts about it here lately.

Regarding my X1 troubles, and ya know, I hate to say "my X1 troubles" because so many had the same problems ... we can sit here and troubleshoot my system till we're both blue in the face ... but here are the facts ...

On a fresh install of my OS with all updates to my PC, I can install X1 and it simply will not work.

On a fresh install of my OS with all updates to my PC, I can install X2 and it shows no sign of the troubles I had with X1.

If you still conclude that the problem is the PC, you need to find another hobby.

(That's not directed at you Danny, but whoever reads it.)

And I don't blame you one bit for that. I remember reading all the posts of problems you had which some I too had experienced for myself. For a while there, I thought for sure people thought we were crazy and the only ones experiencing that whole PC quirkiness. Then others started to chime in about it thankfully. Glad X2 is working well for you....I also remember you posting about it being good for you. If you don't need that X2a patch, definitely stay away from it. I had a few issues with the original release, but the hotfix helped me out a lot. I didn't put it on my good boxes until the X2a patch...and so far so good. But yeah, I'm still permanently in ctrl+s with my left hand just in case. My biggest thing for how I work is to stay away from 64 bit. I got powerful enough boxes where I don't need it anyway...so 32 works good enough for me. :)

Nah, no problem....I didn't take it as directed at me. You have the right to tell it the way you lived it man. There's nothing worse than spending money on something that doesn't work right. Then you spend your time trying to fix it, get the help of credible others and it still doesn't work. That's reason to vent for sure and definitely a reason to jump ship.

-Danny

Excuse me, but what's wrong with the quick fix and the X2a patch?

Just finished an animation score which I did on X1d (btw, rock solid performance during the 3 weeks I was doing the animation score)  and am about ready to install X2...

Please advise on whether to install the quickfix and X2 patch.

Thanks.

vicsant


Excuse me, but what's wrong with the quick fix and the X2a patch?

Just finished an animation score which I did on X1d (btw, rock solid performance during the 3 weeks I was doing the animation score)  and am about ready to install X2...

Please advise on whether to install the quickfix and X2 patch.

Thanks.

Nothing wrong with them on my end but a few have made a mention of issues they got after using the fix or the update. You don't need quickfix if you install X2 and then the X2a patch. Whenever you see quickfix or hotfix....the Bakers are giving us something to fix something major while they work on the REAL patch. In my opinion based on my use and experience, I say install X2 and then do the update to X2a as X2a addresses what the "quickfix" does and a lot more.
 
-Danny

Bub

jb101

John

Sonar does not need a lot of tweaking. I have or had run almost all DAWs at one time or another. At least those the run on a PC. I can state accurately that Sonar through the years has been at least as stable to all the others and most of the time more stable. X2a is very stable here.

Bub is unhappy with the new Sonar as well as having all sorts of problems with it. I have, and so have others, tried to help him but to no avail.  None the less he has come into any thread that is a negative one about X1 or X2. Its his style now. He offers no help or a reason for a problem all he does is bash CW and X1 and X2. Its becoming tiresome.  

Some one else will need to post this answer to Bub because he has blocked me.

But if some one is this unhappy with a product it seems to me that the person would find another product that they like and be unhappy there.

In other words its time to give it up and move on Bub. 

 
+ many many many, John.

Bub is not alone in this.  Mcq and a few others need to wake up and move on.

It would make them, and us, much more content.

I know I keep saying this, but some dullards never listen - "If you can't hold an adult attitude in front of something, then walk away."

Being child-like is not a bad thing, being childish is.  Bub can now put his fingers in his ears and go "Wah wah wah" and block me.  This is to be expected.

I miss his old avatar, it so suited him..

I've had nothing but good things to say about X2. I've repeatedly said it works great on my system.

Why don't you big talkers attack Danny? He's got his hand on Ctrl-S all the time now too ... he said so in another thread just the other day that meandered on for about 5 or 6 paragraphs. As a matter of fact ... he's said more bad about Sonar lately than I have.

See ... the difference between me and Danny is, he'll actually come to you two a-hole's houses and beat you in to a bloody pulp, like you deserve. But me, I'll just sit here and talk you to tears. That's why you don't bust his balls like you do mine. You have no spine.

And you call ME spineless?  You're a tough guy on the internet, aren't you?  If Danny behaved the way you do, I would happily take issue with him.  He, as yet, has not shown himself to be as childish as you.
 
I've not seen him carefully go through an entire quoted conversation changing someone's forum name (s****, s****) into something rude.  I was absolutely staggered that someone claiming to be an adult went to all that trouble.  It says a lot about you.  I find it imposable to take you seriously after that.
 
For your own sake, and those around you, it is time to grow up.  Unless, of course, you are a six year old pretending to be an adult, in which case you are very naughty and should stop.